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Spawn, you have to eat this plate of fried cockroaches. - Jeff Probst May 17, 10:49
JD, it didn't occur to me that you had actually been to BL before. Otherwise, I wouldn't have felt the need to get friend opinions. :) -- nm - con_carne May 17, 10:46 1
- I really like it but I'm glad that you got other recommendations as well - JD May 17, 10:50
I love following George Takei on Twitter. But he loses some geek cred here. - Qale May 17, 10:46 2
- loses cred? he get the year wrong or something? -- nm - crash davis May 17, 10:48 1
  - More like The Terminator didn't exactly sire John Conner. That'd be all sorts of Japanese robot creepy. -- nm - Qale May 17, 10:50
i just bought a birthday card for a friend's birthday in December because it was perfect. What are the odds of me remembering that in December? -- nm - Andie May 17, 10:45 6
- Do what I do and plug it into your phone's calendar, with an alarm - con_carne May 17, 10:47
- "Do not open until Christmas" nm -- nm - groiny May 17, 10:46
- send it now and write on the back 'Do not open until December' - decline May 17, 10:46
- Do you use Outlook or other electronic calendar? -- nm - mara May 17, 10:46 2
  - yeah, i use yahoo, have forever. -- nm - Andie May 17, 10:48 1
    - Can you add a note to Dec 1, or maybe in the second half of November, to remind you? -- nm - mara May 17, 10:49
SITWAP: Viagra condom� may be on store shelves soon......(link) -- (link) - Walt_Disney May 17, 10:43 3
- Okay, wait a second. I will admit, I must be wrong on this as I thought Viagra was for guys that could not get an erection. No way to put one on , - Spawn May 17, 10:45 2
  - the link says these will be for men who can't *keep* one. -- nm - Andie May 17, 10:46 1
    - Ah. Did not click. Thanks. - Spawn May 17, 10:47
I should actually set up my distros in gmail rather than typing names. I'm pretty out of hand sometimes. - amanda jones May 17, 10:43
decline re:B2 the exclusive stuff I got included a new mission (forgot the name) and something called a piano gun -- nm - crash davis May 17, 10:42 1
- cool. (I can't wait to get home!) -- nm - decline May 17, 10:49
Senators ask FTC to investigate oil refinery price fixing -- (link) - znufrii May 17, 10:40 1
- about damn time -- nm - crash davis May 17, 10:44
DAY FOUR - nubby May 17, 10:39 74
- ambush Vermin (sorry - was on a client call) -- nm - JenBro May 17, 11:42 2
  - crap - I didn't read past nubby's post - it's mara? -- nm - JenBro May 17, 11:44 1
    - No, that's next time. -- nm - mara May 17, 11:47
- AMBUSH MARA. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 11:34 12
  - AMBUSH MARA -- nm - Vermin in the Henhouse May 17, 11:56
  - 6 votes down, 1 to go. -- nm - nubby May 17, 11:36 10
    - I'll bet money right now that mara's a fox. And I'm starting to believe that JenBro's the third and final one. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 11:39 9
      - How much? -- nm - mara May 17, 11:50
      - For this round, it doesn't matter. It's Vermin. We just need one more vote. -- nm - nubby May 17, 11:40 7
        
        How's that work again? (Curious.) He's got three votes against and then three others have one vote. Wouldn't... - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 11:42 6
        
        The Day ends when seven votes are cast. -- nm - nubby May 17, 11:44 4
        
        Gotcha. I thought there was 8 this round. My bad. - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 11:45 3
        
        What happens in the event of a tie vote? -- nm - Fuzzy May 17, 11:50 2
        
        Voting keeps going until it's broken. - nubby May 17, 11:57 1
        
        I think Vigilant would be the tie-breaker. -- nm - nubby May 17, 12:04
        
        there was only seven votes this round. -- nm - znufrii May 17, 11:44
- AMBUSH TFOX -- nm - Beaker May 17, 11:29
- Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I don't think Vermin's a fox. I looked at his posting history and he sat out a couple of votes and voted for Amoxy (a fox). - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 11:27 10
  - he was the 6th vote. only the first 5 were meaningful -- nm - znufrii May 17, 11:30 6
    - Fair enough, but it still doesn't explain a vote away from amoxy that mara cast. What's the hen advantage to going "off target"? - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 11:34 4
      - I didn't find that particularly meaningful at all, it was far too late in the round to have any influence. -- nm - znufrii May 17, 11:36 3
        
        note that this doesn't mean I think you are wrong. -- nm - znufrii May 17, 11:37 2
        
        It might be a throwaway, but she didn't back it up with either a joke or reasoning until asked and it was clear it was over. - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 11:39 1
        
        At this point, the only things I can say are: A) I suck at this game, and B) nothing I can say will change anyone's mind about me. Let's assume I'm - mara May 17, 11:43
    - oh, good catch. -- nm - ty97 May 17, 11:31
  - Did he? I was going on mara's logic, I need to backboard. -- nm - ty97 May 17, 11:28 2
    - You're right, he did, damn. Can I un-ambush? -- nm - ty97 May 17, 11:29 1
      - No. -- nm - nubby May 17, 11:37
- DAY FOUR update - nubby May 17, 11:26 1
  - who is nubby talking to? -- nm - JenBro May 17, 11:45
- *dresses in black* - kelly May 17, 11:05 1
  - All the better to go sneaking, eh? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 11:07
- AMBUSH VERMIN. -- nm - mara May 17, 11:00 4
  - AMBUSH VERMIN -- nm - znufrii May 17, 11:10
  - Is this gut feel, or was their a discussion I missed about why? Not challenging you, just not sure how to vote and looking for a reason. -- nm - ty97 May 17, 11:03 2
    - I've decided to go with somebody who's been less participatory. The contributions from him that I've seen were insignicant, jokey, off-the-cuff. -- nm - mara May 17, 11:07 1
      - Solid reasoning, I'll go with it. AMBUSH VERMIN. -- nm - ty97 May 17, 11:11
- AMBUSH JENBRO - TFox May 17, 10:56 3
  - I'm trying to catch up and I'm torn. This morning she didn't seem like a fox to me.....but that voting irregularity is a good point. -- nm - ty97 May 17, 10:59
  - fine - everyone ambush me - it's the wrong choice but I won't convince you I'm sure -- nm - JenBro May 17, 10:57 1
    - ok - for the record - while I am back at work now - I have to go to a co-worker's office and will be AFK - I have no idea who to vote for next I was - JenBro May 17, 10:59
- Crap I'm sorry Wil - why did the foxes still get a ben though- that's not fair -- nm - JenBro May 17, 10:52
- well done everyone. who's next? -- nm - znufrii May 17, 10:43 6
  - AMBUSH ZNUFRII!!! -- nm - Roger More May 17, 10:47 5
    - nice try -- nm - znufrii May 17, 10:48 4
      - Isn't that an official vote? -- nm - mara May 17, 10:50 3
        
        He's not playing. -- nm - nubby May 17, 10:51 2
        
        Oh, that's helpful. So I need to print out the list of players and tape it to my monitor now so I can double-check everything that looks like a vote. -- nm - mara May 17, 10:54 1
        
        I can share my spreadsheet with you... oh wait. -- nm - nubby May 17, 10:55
- Are the "eaten" completely out of the game, or are they allowed to continue to comment and speculate? (nm) - musubi May 17, 10:43 9
  - If I were a fox (I'm not), the logic would be "well, since Will suggested a fox correctly, they'll know he's a hen, so killing him gives them no info. - TFox May 17, 10:46 3
    - I get what you're saying, but if it doens't take will's guessing/speculation out of the equation, then - musubi May 17, 10:49 2
      - well, you kill a question mark, but know Will is safe, then you've narrowed the voting pool by 2, not just 1. -- nm - TFox May 17, 10:51 1
        
        Yeah, it's based on this that I figure I'm dead hen clucking on the next round. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request May 17, 10:59
  - It's a free board. They can discuss. -- nm - nubby May 17, 10:45
  - I don't think we should participate, as some may die with useful information (like if I was the Vigilant, I could know who is a Fox) -- nm - Guigue May 17, 10:45 3
    - This is what I'm wondering. Because if the info can still be shared, then being a "special" hen, isn't automatically a target. - musubi May 17, 10:47 2
      - Ideally, if you're out of the game, you can't talk, but there's no way to enforce that here. -- nm - nubby May 17, 10:51 1
        
        Ah, gotcha. So it's not that discussion is encouraged, but moreso just honor system to be "dead". (nm) - musubi May 17, 10:53
- Mmmm, that's good stew. -- nm - Vermin in the Henhouse May 17, 10:41
- heh. good work Will. know in your death that you were right. - TFox May 17, 10:40 13
  - "*starts thinking JenBro's hesitancy to vote for the clear choice is a sign we've hit a fox and she doesn't want to vote for him*" - David May 17, 10:42 12
    - I almost want to run with this today, just because I feel bad about accusing our fallen hero. -- nm - TFox May 17, 10:42 11
      - I'm not entirely convinced...there are other, more likely targets, I think... -- nm - znufrii May 17, 10:48 10
        
        Like I said, I'd be surprised, but... she went from YAY YAY YAY YAY FOX HEN WOOOOOO! - TFox May 17, 10:50 2
        
        I was IN A MEETING -- nm - JenBro May 17, 10:56
        
        the timing is curious... -- nm - znufrii May 17, 10:52
        
        At this point, I'm think you and JenBro may both be foxes. (This game is great for generating mistrust and paranoia, isn't it.) -- nm - mara May 17, 10:49 6
        
        I'm pretty sure JenBro is not, my own non-fox state should be obvious by now as I suggested amoxy first. - znufrii May 17, 10:50 5
        
        THANK YOU ZNU -- nm - JenBro May 17, 10:58
        
        Oh, you did? Okay. Hmmm, would a group of 3 sacrifice one of their members if it meant an almost iron-clad diversion of suspicion? -- nm - mara May 17, 10:52 3
        
        (he suggested alphabetical order, not amoxy by name, fwiw.) -- nm - TFox May 17, 10:53 2
        
        wrong - znufrii May 17, 10:54 1
        
        true. -- nm - TFox May 17, 10:54
whoever wins, we all lose... -- (link) - znufrii May 17, 10:38
I think I'd be interested in a Survivor season that was cast with people who were voted off first in their season. - Dano May 17, 10:37 4
- Go Bebe! (or was he second?) -- nm - nubby May 17, 10:42
- *breaks out his ukelele* -- nm - Strongbad May 17, 10:41
- I like that as a concept more than I think I would like the reality. - the wrong element, bad guy May 17, 10:41
- I would like to add a third tribe in. nm -- nm - groiny May 17, 10:38
That sandwich that appears in the sidebar ad really makes me hungry. Or makes me feel like eating, anyway. -- nm - mara May 17, 10:36 2
- Amazon has sandwiches? -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:43
- you wanna eat the sausage? nm -- nm - groiny May 17, 10:37
Doonesbury goes with a rapture theme this week. Over/under on how whether Blondie's song hits iTunes charts this week? -- (link) - bc/nc May 17, 10:28
Catch me up on Arnie: did he not know the kid was his until recently, or did he know for a while? (Or don't we know?) -- nm - mara May 17, 10:24 8
- I'm pretty sure they said he has know and has been financially supporting the child -- nm - decline May 17, 10:25 7
  - Simpsons writers, get cracking! -- nm - David May 17, 10:28 1
    - Sarah Wiggum will have some explaining to do. -- nm - Roger More May 17, 10:41
  - I wonder if Maria knew -- nm - Epiphany May 17, 10:28 3
    - from what I read she did not until Arnie told her recently -- nm - Remlik May 17, 10:28 2
      - but is that actually true? did they have an agreement to let him get out of political office? - Epiphany May 17, 10:31 1
        
        the story as I heard it is that he waited until he was out of office to tell Maria. - b. May 17, 10:32
  - Wow. -- nm - mara May 17, 10:27
mm, from b2 - yay re: brownie bob. I was just thinking of him the other day and hoped he was doing ok. -- nm - b. May 17, 10:22 1
- Maybe Trish can convince him. He just just friended her yesterday... - MojaveMeg May 17, 10:25
Also, there was a debate earlier this year about whether ELR's elimination would kill the ratings of Survivor. - David May 17, 10:22 42
- Semi-related: Why has this guy Rob been on the show four times? Is no one else auditioning to get on or do people love him that much? - Krusty May 17, 10:28 29
  - I am clearly not a Survivor fan, so my opinion means next to nothing, but it does seem a sad commentary on the show's game itself that - musubi May 17, 10:41 1
    - Sort of. He was on one regular season, then on the All-Stars, then Heroes vs. Villians and then as a direct result of that and the "challenge" at the - oblique May 17, 10:44
  - They obviously do it for ratings, there is no other motivator.. - Gwaahjo May 17, 10:31
  - How many times has he won? -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:31 11
    - 2*. - David May 17, 10:32 10
      - Wait, you count the wife winning? -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:32 9
        
        Since she would have been voted out if not for him, yes. -- nm - David May 17, 10:38 8
        
        So, 25%, or 50%*? Not that great. -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:41 7
        
        You're dumb. And ugly. And your heart is filled with hate. -- nm - David May 17, 10:42 6
        
        Dude, if you or I were on there 4 times each, we could win 3 between us, easy. -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:43 4
        
        You would both be eliminated after you became weak from not eating the crap you'd be forced to have. -- nm - Kim Pine May 17, 10:44
        
        lmao. nm -- nm - groiny May 17, 10:44 2
        
        Just saying, if this guy is so great, he should be batting a bit better than .250. -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:48 1
        
        there are WAY more things at play here than just winning and losing.... - groiny May 17, 10:50
        
        and he sucks at Halo. nm -- nm - groiny May 17, 10:43
  - Spoilers - Dano May 17, 10:31
  - I certainly love him that much. - Kim Pine May 17, 10:30 1
    - His first season had one of my favorite moments. - the wrong element, bad guy May 17, 10:39
  - The answer is simple: he's the most talented Survivor player ever. - David May 17, 10:30 10
    - If he's the most talented than shouldn't he be a four time winner? - Krusty May 17, 10:32 2
      - Why woud I be joking? - David May 17, 10:36
      - only if there's a three time winner. -- nm - TFox May 17, 10:33
    - Hmm. As I asked above, how many times has he won? - Spawn May 17, 10:32 6
      - Yikes. By this metric, Vecepia is the 21st best player in Survivor history. -- nm - Strongbad May 17, 10:33 4
        
        This will come up again over the next few days. -- nm - David May 17, 10:38 1
        
        Speaking of which...do we need to rework it a but (spoils) - Jim May 17, 10:46
        
        Has she played 4 times? -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:35 1
        
        She's batting 100%. -- nm - Strongbad May 17, 10:40
      - I dunno. Probst is pretty sleazy -- nm - Roger More May 17, 10:33
- who is ELR? -- nm - Gwaahjo May 17, 10:24 1
  - Russell. -- nm - David May 17, 10:26
- But Russell stopped watching - doesn't that mean everyone else did? -- nm - Reagen May 17, 10:23
- I thought the recap at the beginning of the finale was remarkably concise. - TFox May 17, 10:23 8
  - It was a much better finale than they've done in the past. They also dropped that memorial stupidity. -- nm - David May 17, 10:26 7
    - According to Probst, they actually did the Fallen Comrades thing, but there was too much show so they cut it. That might be the biggest plus of RI. -- nm - Jim May 17, 10:34 2
      - This is absolutely what I assumed happened. Of course, with the pagonging ... it would have been silly. -- nm - Beryllium May 17, 10:48
      - I always skip it on the DVR. Makes watching the Finale/Reunion not take 3 hours :) -- nm - oblique May 17, 10:37
    - I think that time was taken up by RI stuff. - the wrong element, bad guy May 17, 10:28 3
      - or maybe it just rained too much. (it was stormy at Final TC) -- nm - Strongbad May 17, 10:31 1
        
        I really don't think they had the time for the "Fallen Heroes" stuff. - the wrong element, bad guy May 17, 10:42
      - That's the positive RI adds. The show needs less filler each week and it makes for better television. - David May 17, 10:31
David...Strongbad is right...he's the kid who gave up immunity to that Natalie chick in Fans vs Favorites. -- nm - Jim May 17, 10:21 11
- Oh, that guy should never be allowed to play again. The guy I'm thinking of was also named Erik and spelled it that way. He was a bartender. -- nm - David May 17, 10:25 10
  - Is your Erik the one on Russell's first season who lived in a tree during the rainy days? -- nm - Dano May 17, 10:33 3
    - I don't know about the second half but yes to the first. His behavior is what stopped ELR from being a blip in the show's history. -- nm - David May 17, 10:36 2
      - I liked him. -- nm - Dano May 17, 10:38 1
        
        You liked the slaver? -- nm - David May 17, 10:39
  - Also..I'm chatting with missyae and some other folks, here's what I'm learning (cast spoilers for S23 and S24) - Jim May 17, 10:31 5
    - That middle thing *STUNS* me. -- nm - David May 17, 10:33 2
      - Yep...he swears it's true though. She couldn't (spec) - Jim May 17, 10:35 1
        
        No. - David May 17, 10:37
    - spoils - TFox May 17, 10:32 1
      - The s24 stuff, yes. -- nm - David May 17, 10:33
This is what the lockout has done: ESPN is doing power rankings for the coolest helmets. - TFox May 17, 10:20 14
- I like the purple helmets! nm -- nm - ty79 May 17, 10:26
- I like the Vikes, Bengals and Rams helmets. - musubi May 17, 10:24
- Seachickens! -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:23 1
  - Bills, Chargers, Colts, Jags, Raiders, Broncos -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:29
- I'm guessing "the ones that best reduce concussions" didn't make the list. -- nm - the wrong element, bad guy May 17, 10:22
- Tebow! -- nm - Jim May 17, 10:22
- this sounds like a znufrii-style poll ("top 10 cities with the best lettuce!") -- nm - Don Homer May 17, 10:21 5
  - it is, it really is, it's dumb as hell. -- nm - TFox May 17, 10:22 4
    - Leaving you *no choice* but to post it! -- nm - Reagen May 17, 10:22 3
      - I mainly just want to post it like "look, ESPN did something dumb as shit". - TFox May 17, 10:24 2
        
        meh -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:29
        
        The Browns at #8 and the Bengals not even getting a single vote is just bull. -- nm - Ender May 17, 10:28
- Cowboys, Rams -- nm - Strongbad May 17, 10:21 1
  - 6, NR (in top 10) -- nm - TFox May 17, 10:21
LIR LA STers, Re: This Wednesday night ST meetup with JackDawson. Let's pin down our meetup location. - con_carne May 17, 10:19 2
- Time? The place can be a bit of a mad house but hoping that there's a chance they will recognize me and will minimize the wait -- nm - JD May 17, 10:23 1
  - Seven is roughly the earliest I can make it -- nm - con_carne May 17, 10:24
Obie, did you think I was going to hang myself for littering? -- nm - Dr.Vermin May 17, 10:19
The evolution of email... -- (link) - Don Homer May 17, 10:18 1
- L0 -- nm - Spawn May 17, 10:25
1st trailer for Tintin by Spielberg and Jackson.... -- (link) - Remlik May 17, 10:18
I'd like to see cesternino play again. -- nm - amanda jones May 17, 10:16 6
- I would, too. And David from this season. - the wrong element, bad guy May 17, 10:34 1
  - word. "fans vs. strategists"? -- nm - amanda jones May 17, 10:40
- I'd like to see an all-NFL survivor -- put them to work during the lockout - Gwaahjo May 17, 10:18
- I'd like to see Liz Hasselback play again, but doubt she'd ever do it. -- nm - Strongbad May 17, 10:18 2
  - Why? I don't remember her as being all that good a player. - the wrong element, bad guy May 17, 10:26 1
    - She wasn't. - Strongbad May 17, 10:29
hi! -- nm - loosi at the Hilton May 17, 10:16 2
- AMBUSH LOOSI!!! -- nm - znufrii May 17, 10:31 1
  - pileon! -- nm - loosi at the Hilton May 17, 10:45
*twitch* - znufrii May 17, 10:14
Pippy, I approve that snort - zork May 17, 10:14 2
- I am rocking of these today - very similar -- (link) - Epiphany May 17, 10:27 [Image] 1
  - *schwingggg* - zork May 17, 10:34
2 people I'd like to see on this Fall's Celebrity Apprentice - Strongbad May 17, 10:13 3
- No way Ric Flair could do it.....he can't keep money around at all. -- nm - Will Hunting May 17, 10:17 2
  - yep. BUT he'd make great tv....Hogan would be solid as well with all his backstabbing -- nm - Remlik May 17, 10:19 1
    - You know Hogan could fundraise better than most. -- nm - Strongbad May 17, 10:20

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