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SITWAP: NYPD looks at ways to disrupt cell phones in case of a terrorist attack. -- (link)
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TaurusII
Jan 9 '09, 08:24
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/08/nypd-interrupt-cell-phone-service-event-terrorist-attack/
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Noooooooooooo!!!!!!! -- nm
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The Dark Knight
Jan 9, 08:45
Just put it on the Alltel network.
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HdnAgnda
Jan 9, 08:31
1
funny -- nm
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zork
Jan 9, 08:43
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How does that help?
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Beryllium
Jan 9, 08:26
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They Mumbai attacks were coordinate in real time by cell phone. -- nm
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TWuG
Jan 9, 08:27
12
oh, well, clearly we should ban all cellphones then. ;-) My position is that communication is inherently necessary to deal with incidents like that.
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Beryllium
Jan 9, 08:31
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I disagree. The upside of allowing the public to communicate over cell phones during an attack is way outweighed by
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TWuG
Jan 9, 08:34
3
Pfffft... scenes of mass panic are fun! -- nm
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Cuzzin Todd
Jan 9, 08:43
it's not like people couldn't trigger bombs remotely before cell phones.
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mafic
Jan 9, 08:38
1
Cell phones make it easier. Doesn't require line of sight or being nearby with some other type of transmitter. Timers aren't as reliable. -- nm
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TWuG
Jan 9, 08:42
I disagree. Unless you are KSUTH, all you can do is make matters worse.
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Spawn
Jan 9, 08:33
6
*shrug* You can still provide intel, even staying out of the way. -- nm
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Beryllium
Jan 9, 08:35
5
Just what the authorities need, hundreds of calls from citizens during a crisis. -- nm
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Spawn
Jan 9, 08:36
4
Think back to 9/11. A truck bomb supposedy hit a Federal building. Planes over Ohio were supposedly part of the attack.
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TWuG
Jan 9, 08:41
1
And disrupting New York calls would have still allowed those calls to happen. -- nm
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Spawn
Jan 9, 08:43
it's not like the 911 operators have another job to do. they're basically emergency services call screeners. -- nm
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mafic
Jan 9, 08:39
1
Screening 100 calls is much different than screening 1000 calls or 10,000 calls. They sure as hell don't need to be
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TWuG
Jan 9, 08:44
erm, let me rephrase the first sentence:
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Beryllium
Jan 9, 08:27
17
there's also the fact that nefarious devices can be triggered via cell phone
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znufrii
Jan 9, 08:28
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or anything that can send a signal. -- nm
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mafic
Jan 9, 08:35
6
Part of the point is that it is the easiest asset for them to use without drawing notice. -- nm
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Spawn
Jan 9, 08:37
5
so the ease of detonating bombs remotely has now gone from unbelievably easy to just incredibly easy. -- nm
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mafic
Jan 9, 08:42
4
If you see a guy holding a detonator, you kinda know what is up.
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Spawn
Jan 9, 08:44
3
how about a car alarm remote? -- nm
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mafic
Jan 9, 08:49
1
Requires proximity. A guy in SF can remotely cset off a bomb anywhere in the world using a cell phone. -- nm
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TWuG
Jan 9, 08:52
I want my phone call. -- nm
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The Joker
Jan 9, 08:48
Hrm. Yes, that's true. So this plan would help mitigate the risk of a movie-style plot with manually-sequenced detonations.
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Beryllium
Jan 9, 08:34
6
Landlines would still be active. -- nm
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Spawn
Jan 9, 08:40
2
which is really great for the people who don't have one. -- nm
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znufrii
Jan 9, 08:43
1
I have little sympathy for those people. -- nm
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Spawn
Jan 9, 09:01
You use "movie style dismissively. Remember that a TV episode showed to potential for a commercial jet being flown into the WTC as did at least one
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TWuG
Jan 9, 08:38
2
problem is that it's at best reactive. things have already gone haywire once the network goes down.
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mafic
Jan 9, 08:48
1
Walkie talkies require proximity. The Mumbai attack was directed from Pakistan through cell phones. -- nm
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TWuG
Jan 9, 08:53
Like Domino's.
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Cuzzin Todd
Jan 9, 08:30
1
Word. -- nm
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znufrii
Jan 9, 08:30
Alternate communication sources would be utilized. Police radio, etc. -- nm
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Spawn
Jan 9, 08:27
2
So ... you buy that citizens don't deserve the right to communicate with each other in a crisis?
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Beryllium
Jan 9, 08:29
1
Agreed, for that type of attack.
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Spawn
Jan 9, 08:31
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