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simple. he's a Democrat. -- nm

Posted by znufrii Aug 23 '11, 13:10

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- Seriously? - The Ruiner Aug 23, 13:20
- Why not? Partisanship is at the root of everything that happens in politics. - Chest Rockwell Aug 23, 13:19 13
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    - There is some of that, but my sense of it is that it's on the fringes. And that element exists on both sides. - Chest Rockwell Aug 23, 13:30
    - I think you're overstating your opinion and understating what others are saying. - Mel Profit Aug 23, 13:27 1
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    - They hated Clinton. Even after he had so much success. -- nm - The Ruiner Aug 23, 13:27
    - imo, a fair amount of it is backlash to how much "we" did it during GWB. - TFox Aug 23, 13:26 7
      - I think the healthcare bill/debate contributed a lot to conservative rancor, not just on the far right -- nm - con_carne Aug 23, 13:29
      - But in Dubya's case he was a complete asshat. -- nm - Mel Profit Aug 23, 13:29 2
        
        he earned it more by a long shot, but no one ever said the "yeah, me too!" effect was based on merit. -- nm - TFox Aug 23, 13:31 1
        
        I'm just pointing out that Dubya was an asshat. - Mel Profit Aug 23, 13:32
      - I disagree. -- nm - The Ruiner Aug 23, 13:27
      - I'd agree that's a big part of it. -- nm - Ender Aug 23, 13:26
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For many (not all) it's because he's black. That'll bring strong denials here, I'm sure, but that is the motivating factor for many of the people - TWuG Aug 23, 13:12 28
- I saw signs in a yard that depicted him as Alfred E. Neuman. And the phrase went more along the lines that you said. - The Ruiner Aug 23, 13:25
- "Am I allowed to disagree with his white half?" - Dennis Miller Aug 23, 13:16 23
  - I don't think we get a Tea Party with a President Hillary. And the Tea Party drove the recent debt scare and the 2010 House win for the GOP. - TWuG Aug 23, 13:22 22
    - If she had done all the same money-printing that Obama did, sure. - Dr.Johnny Vermin Aug 23, 13:28 1
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    - Bull, the Tea Party was driven by Washington suddenly thinking a $1.8 trillion deficit was hunky dory. -- nm - Ender Aug 23, 13:25 19
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        Anti-tax isn't pro-deficit when they're also anti-spending. -- nm - Ender Aug 23, 13:30 11
        
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        See, your problem is that "=$0" part is a total strawman. -- nm - Ender Aug 23, 13:35 9
        
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        Who's talking about the overall debt? - Ender Aug 23, 13:39 7
        
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        And yet that level of deficit spending was significantly less than what started the Tea Party. -- nm - Ender Aug 23, 13:54 5
        
        You can say however much you want to about how bad things were under Bush, but the fact remains we never had a trillion dollar deficit until... - Ender Aug 23, 13:56 4
        
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        In Nov '08 the FY 08 deficit was scored by the CBO at $455 billion. The shit didn't hit the fan until '09. - Ender Aug 23, 14:11
        
        ergo, the Tea Party caused the increase in the deficit!!! -- nm - znufrii Aug 23, 13:58 1
        
        Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock. -- nm - Ender Aug 23, 13:58
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      - And that started with Obama? -- nm - Jim Aug 23, 13:27 4
        
        Before they took power the Dems were bemoaning $400 billion deficits. -- nm - Ender Aug 23, 13:28 3
        
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        The total public debt has been neither $400 billion nor $1.8 trillion in quite some time. -- nm - Ender Aug 23, 13:36
        
        sure, when it went toward tax cuts for the rich and a war of choice against an enemy who hadn't actually attacked us. -- nm - znufrii Aug 23, 13:33
- some, perhaps, on a personal level. but in terms of the institutional opposition of the GOP against the legitimacy of his administration, I doubt that - znufrii Aug 23, 13:15
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  - make no mistake..."not their guy" is huge. - Mel Profit Aug 23, 13:18

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