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In response to "yep. get people talking. change a few perspectives in the process. -- nm" by kare

I am not convinced it works at all (in terms of changing minds). But they do get the press. -- nm

Posted by loosilu (aka loosilu) Jan 9 '09, 12:46

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i think this one is sort of brilliant as far as getting to kids and people who do the "blissful ignorance" thing. - kare Jan 9, 12:50 20
- i think you're totally 100% right, and they've been very succesful with their tactics....nm - x Jan 9, 13:13
- I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people know fish are living things. - TWuG Jan 9, 12:56 8
  - when i say "blissfully ignorant" i mean those that intentionally try not to think too much about the actual source of their food - kare Jan 9, 12:59 7
    - agreed that a lot of people do that. I just don't think PETA's shtick works against that. -- nm - loosilu Jan 9, 13:07 1
      - PETA articles are what first got me thinking about the whole thing at around 10-11. - kare Jan 9, 13:13
    - It may make some people think. Personally, I think it's insulting. If you (impersonal, not you) have a good argument for being vegan, make it - TWuG Jan 9, 13:05 1
      - I just wish they stop there effin preaching and their holier than thou attitude. -- nm - CQ Jan 9, 13:08
    - I think this is true - when you go to the supermarket, you see packages of meat that have little resemblance to the animal they came from - Roger More Jan 9, 13:04
    - I hope a shark makes that connection the next time it bites a person. Hopefully it'll treat that person with respect. -- nm - CQ Jan 9, 13:04 1
      - as an aside, i heard recently that many sharks bite simply because they're curious about something. and often they let go because they're like, ew, a - kare Jan 9, 13:15
- I don't think those particular people would stop no matter what the results. I think they like seeing themselves in print. Whether they are responsibl - loosilu Jan 9, 12:54 6
  - exactly. it's awesome in that the people who won't switch no matter what are so angered/annoyed that they help spread the message to people who just - kare Jan 9, 12:56 5
    - ah. It's possible, and I guess we can't know. I hold a grudge against them, so I'm biased. -- nm - loosilu Jan 9, 12:57 4
      - i'm sure they're very careful about measuring results, and going with what works. -- nm - kare Jan 9, 13:00 3
        
        I doubt that very much, honestly. -- nm - loosilu Jan 9, 13:14
        
        peta doesn't strike me as being careful about things like image and effectiveness at all. - TFox Jan 9, 13:04 1
        
        i guess we don't know. just, as someone who has worked in marketing for years, you usually try to measure success and decide on future approaches - kare Jan 9, 13:07
- To many people, fish are just fillets they buy in wrapping in the store. Ditto for chicken, etc. - Beryllium Jan 9, 12:53 2
  - I never thought about it that way, but I think I'd be in the same boat (well except for deer). - musubi, on a logic rampage Jan 9, 12:55
  - yep. there's lots of people who purposely don't think about it too much. and then of course there's lots of others that couldn't care less. - kare Jan 9, 12:55
Some of the marine stunts they do really piss me off. - Beryllium Jan 9, 12:47 7
- which ones? are you sure that's PETA and not Greenpeace? -- nm - loosilu Jan 9, 12:48 6
  - although I had to laugh hearing about someone saying they couldn't support Greenpeace because of what they did to the Rainbow Warrior. -- nm - Reagen Jan 9, 12:54 4
    - I admit that I hold a grudge against Greenpeace for being partially responsible for UH taking "Rainbows" out of their name. - musubi, on a logic rampage Jan 9, 13:01 3
      - gay greenpeacers most of all. -- nm - Reagen Jan 9, 13:02 2
        
        Redundant? (nm) - musubi, on a logic rampage Jan 9, 13:03 1
        
        INVALID. :) -- nm - Beryllium Jan 9, 13:11
  - hmm, you raise a valid point. But as far as stupid annoyingness, lately they're on the same page. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 9, 12:50
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