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In response to "Getting back to the larger issue, it's kind of a distraction to think about how many calories you burned doing a particular thing" by Reagen

Generally it's a mistake to focus too much on what you burn during a workout because it's really not a meaningful amount in terms of your daily

calorie burn (and often makes you hungrier so you eat the difference). It's you really want to burn calories to lose weight, it's in your day to day things you do. Don't sit at a desk. Get a standing desk. You'll burn way more calories than a workout. Take the stairs instead of the elevator. Sitting is just the worst thing you can possibly do to burn calories (as I sit at my desk going on the better part of 9 hours a day).

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