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An airstrike killed U.S.-born Anwar al-Awlaki, known for his ability to leverage the internet and indoctrinate impressionable youth for terrorist caus

Posted by Bacon (aka redmond) Sep 30 '11, 07:03

causes.

~another one bites the dust~

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Link? Where was he, in Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq? -- nm - TWuG Sep 30, 07:07 4
- Trenton, Ohio -- nm - Beryllium Sep 30, 07:10 1
  - Now *that* I'd take issue with. Posse Comitatus. -- nm - TWuG Sep 30, 07:11
- Yemen -- (link) - znufrii Sep 30, 07:07 1
  - Cool. We got the editor of Inspire, as well. Also a US citizen. Guess the take away here is don't turn your cloak. -- nm - TWuG Sep 30, 07:10
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- i don't necessarily in this case, but the building of secret drone bases and the increased roboticization of war... - x Sep 30, 07:20 28
  - Cylons. -- nm - Diva Sep 30, 07:24 4
    - ok, we've done the terminator and battlestar galactica jokes, so i guess we can stop talking about it now.....nm - x Sep 30, 07:30 3
      - talk about whatever you want to talk about. if i want to make a joke, i will. -- nm - Diva Sep 30, 07:33 2
        
        now now, i didn't say you couldn't....nm - x Sep 30, 07:37 1
        
        there are plenty of serious responses within the thread that can be and are being commented on. - Diva Sep 30, 07:45
  - My concern is with what will happen when Skynet goes online and the are 50 bazillion drones flying around not in our control -- nm - decline Sep 30, 07:23 13
    - i honestly think this sort of response is part of the problem... - x Sep 30, 07:28 12
      - I have no problem with it. Either the pilot is in the plane controlling it, or somewhere else controlling it. - Bacon Sep 30, 07:31 11
        
        i would say the experience of being a pilot over a country dropping a bomb on a target..... - x Sep 30, 07:35 6
        
        I have no problem with it still. It's still a person making the decision. They can see something on the ground and decide to call off the attack. - Bacon Sep 30, 07:39
        
        The guys flying B-52s out of Diego Garcia might as well be drone pilots. - Mel Profit Sep 30, 07:37 1
        
        this is true enough. but i still think it's a lot different to pilot drones all day, and then go home to your family.... - x Sep 30, 07:39
        
        FWIW, I have read that drone operators suffer pretty severe trauma. will have to look it up. -- nm - loosilu Sep 30, 07:37 1
        
        I've read this too. - Mel Profit Sep 30, 07:39
        
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        for now. But AI is coming. -- nm - Mel Profit Sep 30, 07:35 3
        
        Then we can have this discussion and I may change my mind. -- nm - Bacon Sep 30, 07:36 2
        
        The trend is inevitable but if you don't want to acknowledge and discuss it that's fine. -- nm - Mel Profit Sep 30, 07:39 1
        
        What I am saying is that if computers start making the call, I would probably have a problem with it. However, it's not relevant to what is happening - Bacon Sep 30, 07:41
  - this. -- nm - loosilu Sep 30, 07:23
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    - I'm fine with drones being used wherever the rule of law can't reach. RoL reaches London just fine. RoL barely has a toehold in Yemen. -- nm - TWuG Sep 30, 07:27 6
      - how do you justify drone attacks in Pakistan, then? -- nm - loosilu Sep 30, 07:31 2
        
        OBL hiding out there for two years+. If the RoL existed in Pakistan he'd never have hidden there. -- nm - TWuG Sep 30, 07:36 1
        
        And he wasn't even in the rural tribal regions that are even worse. -- nm - Ender Sep 30, 07:41
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        yep and not many thing AQ qualifyes for protection under the laws - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:33
      - Right. Drones are just a more effective SEAL Team. - Mel Profit Sep 30, 07:29
- *raises hand* - spamlet (iPhone) Sep 30, 07:18 3
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    - Yep. I'm not generally a slippery slope kind of guy, but you just need to keep pushing a little farther to get scary. -- nm - spamlet (iPhone) Sep 30, 07:24 1
      - awwwwww, push it! -- nm - tRuMaN Sep 30, 07:25
- I'm probably perceived as Chicken Little here when it comes to the rise of the Imperial Presidency but... - Mel Profit Sep 30, 07:11
- Please don't give the Tea Party any other ideas. I cannot handle them anymore. -- nm - MDH Sep 30, 07:11 1
  - It ain't the Tea Party who'd be pissed. -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 30, 07:12
- due process says what? -- nm - znufrii Sep 30, 07:06 42
  - Traitorous bastard killed on the battlefield. -- nm - TWuG Sep 30, 07:08 41
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    - what battlefield? are we at war with Yemen and I didn't notice? -- nm - znufrii Sep 30, 07:08 38
      - wherever his front door was, that battlefield -- nm - dogbert Sep 30, 07:21
      - So we can never target al-Qaida because they're not an actual country? -- nm - mara Sep 30, 07:13 26
        
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        war and the rules thereof are defind for being conficts between nations - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:30
        
        I've never said I'm okay with it. I was just wondering what znu's position was. -- nm - mara Sep 30, 07:27 1
        
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        in certain places you can but i doubt Yemen qualifyes for that sticktly speaking -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:15 21
        
        This guy in particular was a well-known anti-US jihadist. Since he declared war on the US, I think he qualifies as being at war with the US. -- nm - loosilu Sep 30, 07:16 10
        
        no actually it does not -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:19 9
        
        Well, the U.S. isn't at war with him....now -- nm - Bacon Sep 30, 07:21 8
        
        so AQ is dead now? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:24 7
        
        "him" -- nm - Bacon Sep 30, 07:24 6
        
        both the targeting of single individuals AND hitting in soverign states are illeagal - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:27 5
        
        Yeah, it's not now. Have you read all the new laws on the books that were originally given to Bush? -- nm - Bacon Sep 30, 07:29 4
        
        Bush or the US or NATO dont set the rules - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:30 3
        
        Well if you are right then Obama will be in jail soon. Waiting.....still waiting......still waiting..... -- nm - Bacon Sep 30, 07:32 1
        
        i doubt ANY us official will be in jail for this or for any other violations done in the "war on terror" - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:34
        
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        Qualifies for what? -- nm - mara Sep 30, 07:16 9
        
        as a rouge state -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:21 8
        
        My post had nothing to do with that. -- nm - mara Sep 30, 07:23 6
        
        ask better questions then -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:24 5
        
        My question was to znu, trying to clarify his position. Your replied did not clarify it. They never do. -- nm - mara Sep 30, 07:26 4
        
        ohh sorry i thought your question posten under my post was meant for me - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:28 3
        
        It was a very, very misguided attempt to understand what the fuck you were saying. Believe me, I won't make that mistake again. -- nm - mara Sep 30, 07:29 2
        
        so the question was NOT for Znu after all? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:35 1
        
        You're having a lot of difficulty following this thread. This is a common problem with you. So is being an asshole. - mara Sep 30, 07:44
        
        as amusing as this is, you mean a "rogue" state. - loosilu Sep 30, 07:22
      - we're at war with Yemen AQ. -- nm - loosilu Sep 30, 07:09 9
        
        Yemen is a rouge state now? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:13 8
        
        more of an eye shadow state but I won't split hairs with it. -- nm - Epiphany Sep 30, 07:16 3
        
        Yemen is a borderline case sure - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:17
        
        and a leader whose desperate for us to keep him in power in the face of civil uprising. -- nm - znufrii Sep 30, 07:17 1
        
        officially they don't support AQ, but, who knows. -- nm - loosilu Sep 30, 07:17
        
        no. Yemeni Al Qaeda. -- nm - loosilu Sep 30, 07:14 3
        
        i just hope there is no AQ in Warzaw or London -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:15 2
        
        London for sure. -- nm - loosilu Sep 30, 07:16 1
        
        duck and cover! -- nm - Danedukenuuk Sep 30, 07:18
    - Ding. -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 30, 07:08

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