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for Mop, from B2: People in Syracuse, Buffalo, etc, hate to be lumped in with Upstate New York, because it's a NYC term.

they prefer terms like Southern Tier, Northern Tier, and probably some others. I lived in the Southern Tier for five years. NO ONE called it "upstate".

I object to Westchester Co. being called "upstate NY". People in Albany, Syracuse, Buffalo, and everyone else would object, too. -- nm
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