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Jack, I'm not running from what i said, your juvenile need to try and insult me notwithstanding.

Posted by Stephen (aka Sceire) Oct 18 '11, 20:01

My saying that there are jobs available, and that if you're able to you should take them, even if they're not your preferred job, even if you have a college degree, does not mean that I think, or have ever said, that everyone who is unemployed is unemployed because they want to be. But if you have the ability to work, and refuse to do so because you have a diploma and you think a job is beneath you or your qualifications, but receiving money from the government is beneath you, then shame on you.

I do find it curious that in the one hand you attempt to berate me for my position above but on b2 acknowledge that firms have a hard time finding workers to do their "cheap labor." why is that?

Oh, nevermind, I know why. Because you'd rather misrepresent what I say and throw insults at me than have a grown-up conversation. I've now been reminded, and will attempt not to make the same mistake in the future...

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slightly off-topic: At work there's an IT recruiter within earshot and she tells candidates that, company-wide, we have 600 open IT positions... - howie Oct 18, 21:03 6
- I'd say that's right on topic. After our last file clerk left we put out ads for a new one. - Stephen Oct 18, 21:24 4
  - from the sound of it, she's mostly headhunting people who are currently employed and making more than we can offer. (nm) - howie Oct 18, 21:41 1
    - I've read several news stories in the past few weeks that stated even employers with several jobs open won't hire the unemployed person. It's like - Trish Oct 19, 04:57
  - In the case of IT, at least in my area, there's a huge shortage of workers - so the salary demands are not unreasonable. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 21:25 1
    - (Had I been willing to move to vancouver, I could be making six digits at EA right now) -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 21:27
- There was a huge cool-down in IT college attendance from 2004-2008, I think ... the effects are in full swing right now. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 21:14
With an admittedly small sample size of one, when I decided to take any job just to have a job I got one fairly quickly. - Dano Oct 18, 20:38 10
- The situation varies greatly depending on your location and other factors. -- nm - Dano Oct 18, 20:40 9
  - Employers typically aren't often willing to hire "overqualified" people because they know you're not going to stay. -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 20:44 8
    - Or they're required to pay you more than they're willing to. -- nm - nubby Oct 18, 20:51
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      - Ok, here's my last attempt. Are you saying that it's preferable for a college graduate who can't find work in their field of study to collect - Stephen Oct 18, 21:17 3
        
        here is my question, honestly, if your choice was to stay on unemployment for 2 years - tRuMaN Oct 18, 21:47 1
        
        Yes, I would, and I have. - Stephen Oct 18, 23:19
        
        At the one year mark, you and I have the same issue with it. But up until then, it's not egregious. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 21:23
    - (that sentence needed a few more qualifiers) -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 20:48
    - I get the impression that my employer knows that the position I'm in is a high turnover job and hires accordingly. -- nm - Dano Oct 18, 20:47
you do realize that taking a minimum wage job can cost more than they earn, IE: child care, trans costs, increased food costs (convience foods vs.. - zeitgeist Oct 18, 20:23 3
- i'm not sure this has anything to do with what is being said. -- nm - TFox Oct 18, 20:25 1
  - This is something I often identify as zeitgeist's posting identity. Random statements that are tangentially related... somehow. -- nm - Qale Oct 18, 20:38
- oh yeah, those apple picking jobs are 300 miles from here and its "up to 150 a day" which means some young apple picking machine could make that much - zeitgeist Oct 18, 20:25
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We have had a similar debate before, where it was discussed that gaps in time on resumes can make things worse -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 20:16

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