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I think we all need a bit of a post-mortem review of yesterday.

Posted by ty97 Dec 21 '11, 06:44

I'm providing some links below for folks to review what occurred. It is not meant to jump on any posters or cause trouble, but rather I think we, as a community, need to understand what happened to avoid it happening again.

I realize many of us (often this is the case for me) skip threads with tiny text when we see a certain group of names because it's the same old bullshit we're tired of it.

But I think yesterday was different and we owe it to ourselves to review how it happened and, perhaps, where some of us make mistakes.

Post #1 to read: Jim made a comment about how he'd rather read Ika posts than WWF posts on ST: http://hsxtt.com/index.php?post_id=1997193&board_id=12742&username=Jim

On the next board, David made a quip related to Jim's original post in reply to a WWF post. That's where the trouble starts and it continues in a thread above on the board. Folks should review these threads to make their own determination of what happened yesterday:
Read this first: http://hsxtt.com/index.php?post_id=1997272&board_id=12743&username=David
Then read this: http://hsxtt.com/index.php?post_id=1997301&board_id=12743&username=Truman

Alternatively, read this board: http://hsxtt.com/index.php?board_id=12743

Please let me reiterate that I'm really not trying to get on any individual's case here. However, if we are honest about caring about the future of this community, we need to evaluate and understand how we all can add to the problems here, rather than just assume we can blame 'the usual suspects' all the time.

(Note also: David apologized for his quip setting off an unintended firestorm)

Responses:

Honestly -- yesterday is a symptom of *EXACTLY* what years of feud has led us to. - Will Hunting Dec 21, 07:06 3
- again I reference looking fat in a lycra miniskirt. if I start acting like an asshole, people email me so. how does not everyone have that - bad honey Dec 21, 07:19
- I think a lot of what you say is accurate, but it's important to note that yesterday wasn't started by the usual suspects. That's the key takeaway. - ty97 Dec 21, 07:11
- I can't see any system being put in place that would end up being abused. - TWuG Dec 21, 07:10
Ah. I scoured the backboards wondering what set everyone off. I thought I'd missed something. But apparently not. This looks like a bunch of long- - TWuG Dec 21, 06:55 2
- We should have an ST Thunderdome and settle it once and for all. -- nm - nubby Dec 21, 06:56 1
  - I'll tap out now and let my opponent move on to the next round. -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 06:57
lets move on -- nm - Epiphany Dec 21, 06:51 30
- ~let's get together, yeah yeah yeah~ -- nm - mr. grinch Dec 21, 06:54
- We've already lost a poster today. If we bury our heads in the sand and don't assess our own actions, it will just happen again. - ty97 Dec 21, 06:54 28
  - I agree again with tycumber. as part of the problem, though, everything I say is discounted. again, I'm staying because I feel like I bring things to - bad honey Dec 21, 07:02
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    - Thats not what I meant or said - eag Dec 21, 07:07 2
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        Im not really sure what it was all about really even reading the backboards - eag Dec 21, 07:17
    - I think I can translate eag's comment for you - Reagen Dec 21, 07:05 13
      - Also, accusing him, again, of liking/wanting the drama does nothing but start more drama. - Stephen Dec 21, 07:29 1
        
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      - I had to hold my tongue during that whole pact-making. The fact that a bunch of grown adults, mostly in their 40s, required a junior high - ty97 Dec 21, 07:14
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        OK, but you can understand why someone would fight for an image of ST that did not contain non-agression pacts, right? -- nm - Reagen Dec 21, 07:15 5
        
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        I can live with that - eag Dec 21, 07:25
        
        I'm not asking you to agree, just to understand and see how it's not coming from a place of "drama, yay!" -- nm - Reagen Dec 21, 07:22 1
        
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      - In a nutshell thats pretty much it -- nm - eag Dec 21, 07:09 2
        
        And we just need not to take things so personal -- nm - eag Dec 21, 07:10 1
        
        But we are all flawed because we are human and we all have emotions - eag Dec 21, 07:12
    - I don't think ST likes the drama, I think it's more what Andie says. Assumptions get made, reinforced, and then start to clash. - TWuG Dec 21, 07:04 1
      - I was listening to NPR this morning and they were talking about the new proposed law about "you must report child abuse if you suspect it" - bad honey Dec 21, 07:12 [Backboard]
  - someone left over that? who? -- nm - mr. grinch Dec 21, 06:57 6
    - There was more last night, but I didn't think it pertinent to root cause of the fight. But Jim noted parts of this thread as the straw for him -- (link) - ty97 Dec 21, 07:02 [Backboard] 4
      - that's a shame, i liked jim. - mr. grinch Dec 21, 07:14
      - I just want this to be clear - MOUSE HUNT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS DRAMA - And a JenBro in a Pear Tree Dec 21, 07:11 2
        
        and me? I am *gone* if you tell me "no more shoe shopping." -- nm - bad honey Dec 21, 07:16
        
        heh... -- nm - znufrii Dec 21, 07:12
    - Jim. See BBs -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 06:59
I shall adopt my usual response to ST fights, and set up a Free Hugs booth a couple miles outside the city. - Jelly Dec 21, 06:46
Yes, yesterday was more of a tartan than a plaid. -- nm - Beryllium Dec 21, 06:45 4
- oh, you just reminded me to look and see if those tartan shoes I want are on sale. -- nm - bad honey Dec 21, 06:49
- the whole thing was a jumble of people making assumptions about what was being said. - Andie Dec 21, 06:47 2
  - I saw a photo last night that was way more offensive than the Dubai can - Beryllium Dec 21, 06:50 1
    - well, sure, nothing says "Hawaiian vacation" like that image. -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 06:51

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