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In response to
"
I am shocked and dismayed that the question even needs to be asked -- (link)
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by
znufrii
My 2 cents, there are already enough of the "Fact check" websites out there
Posted by
Strongbad (aka Rambler14)
Jan 13 '12, 07:22
Without the NYT trying to pretend they're the Guardians of Truth.
In theory, it's a great idea if they're able to pull it off and be non-partisan about it.
Responses:
then what, in your mind, is the role of a journalist?
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znufrii
Jan 13, 07:30
15
I do not believe it's the NYT's role
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:33
14
If their job is to search for the truth, do they not have the obligation to actually condemn falsehoods when they are presented? -- nm
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Will Hunting
Jan 13, 07:39
1
Yes. If they can pull that off in a factual non-partisan manner, kudos to them. -- nm
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:44
but, if you report a someone making a direct statment, that you KNOW is erroneous, and say nothing... -- nm
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Andie
Jan 13, 07:37
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And in fact, we were unable to find one instance where Mitt Romney actually cremated a job. -- nm
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NYTimes
Jan 13, 08:08
I understand the theory. I question whether the NYT would be able to pull it off in a factual non-partisan way.
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:41
9
I can see how that particular quote might be problematic.
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znufrii
Jan 13, 07:50
"Please note, at press time the NYT was unable to find one instance of the President Obama using the word "apologize" in a speech."
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Andie
Jan 13, 07:43
7
I don't think the author used the best exemple, you can apologize without using the word "apologize"
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Guigue
Jan 13, 07:49
And the flip side of that is the you can apologize for something without using the word "apologize" in a sentence.
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:49
5
fine, that was an example used in the article. but you could apply the same approach to anything. -- nm
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Andie
Jan 13, 07:50
4
In theory, I fully support it. I question the NYT's ability to implement it. -- nm
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:52
3
The debate is not about the NYT, it's about journalism in general -- nm
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Guigue
Jan 13, 07:53
(and I apologize for jumping around with my stance)
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:53
1
enh, that's what debate is for. :) -- nm
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Andie
Jan 13, 07:59
*every* paper should be a guardian of the truth. -- nm
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Reagen
Jan 13, 07:27
7
I agree. -- nm
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:29
5
Then, what's the point of this thread?
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Will Hunting
Jan 13, 07:40
4
My original reply did not accurately explain my position.
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:43
3
Fox News doesn't even try for fair and balanced, they outright lie. Watch OutFoxed someday. -- nm
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Andie
Jan 13, 07:47
2
I rarely watch any of the cable news channels. Usually only in public places when they've got one of them on tv. -- nm
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Strongbad
Jan 13, 07:50
1
we don't even get Fox News (unless you pay for it separately). Thank God.
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Andie
Jan 13, 07:51
yep. -- nm
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Kim Pine
Jan 13, 07:28
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