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In response to "it's already better than it was 4 years ago -- nm" by encyclopedia pixie

I don't agree with that. I think the downward trend has stopped, but it's not better than 4 years ago -- nm

Posted by Bacon (aka redmond) Jan 24 '12, 18:04

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the shit really hit in about september of 2008, but the slide started about a year before that - mafic Jan 24, 18:14
Dude. -- nm - David Jan 24, 18:05 29
- 1 year before Bush left office the country was just starting to turn downward. I disagree with it. -- nm - Bacon Jan 24, 18:07 28
  - 2005-2006 is when there was no escape. So....dude. -- nm - David Jan 24, 18:21
  - we were bleeding hundreds of thousand of jobs a month in 08-09. that's stopped and started to go the other way - encyclopedia pixie Jan 24, 18:10
  - So you just want to disregard the part where the shit hits the fan (which happened before he took office). -- nm - pmb Jan 24, 18:08 25
    - That isn't what I am saying now is it. From where we are now we have not recovered to where we were then. - Bacon Jan 24, 18:12 24
      - Your argument is wrong. The bailouts succeeded beyond anyone's reasonable expectations, particularly the auto industry. - David Jan 24, 18:22 12
        
        GM still owes us a bunch money and Chrysler is now in foreign ownership. DUUUDE!! The Banks made out like bandits....DUUUDE!!! - Bacon Jan 24, 18:25 7
        
        GM has already repaid the 8.1 billion loan, didn't actually take the TARP money, and well.. did sell taxpayers stock that's not worth much. -- (link) - Qale Jan 24, 18:40
        
        now in foreign ownership? they've been there since the late '90s. -- nm - mafic Jan 24, 18:28 3
        
        Don't let facts get in the way. Hahah I forgot about the Germans -- nm - Bacon Jan 24, 18:29 2
        
        I'm starting to suspect you are drinking again *and* engaged to a republican. -- nm - David Jan 24, 18:35 1
        
        I am sober, AND dating a liberal. -- nm - Bacon Jan 24, 18:40
        
        Don't make me turn this into a Four Dude thread. -- nm - David Jan 24, 18:27 1
        
        I am going to most likely vote for him because a Republican President, Congress and possible Senate scare teh shit out of me - Bacon Jan 24, 18:28
        
        "Paid Back In Full" was not a phrase that people expected to hear. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 24, 18:24 2
        
        Look at the books. That isn't true. At all. -- nm - Bacon Jan 24, 18:25 1
        
        The U.S. still has a ton of stock -- nm - Bacon Jan 24, 18:25
        
        Which one of the Republican candidates was against the GM bailout? -- nm - the liioulu with due book Jan 24, 18:23
      - rate of US GDP growth in 2008: 1.1%, in 2010: 2.8%, and probably around 3% for 2011 -- (link) - encyclopedia pixie Jan 24, 18:21
      - I would agree that things aren't back to where they were 4 years ago (at least for individuals. I'd argue that business profitability is back to - pmb Jan 24, 18:18 6
        
        I can agree with most of this. I still don't see business profits up in small business though -- nm - Bacon Jan 24, 18:20 4
        
        Different economies of scale. -- nm - the liioulu with due book Jan 24, 18:23 3
        
        We are still losing customers that are going out of business. Might be geographical but we are not out of the woods here -- nm - Bacon Jan 24, 18:27 2
        
        Banks are lending money as they should in some cases. - the liioulu with due book Jan 24, 18:33 1
        
        Crud, that are up there should have been and aren't. - the liioulu with due book Jan 24, 18:36
        
        Unless your a teacher or a public employee who's not a cop or fireperson (in most places). -- nm - the liioulu with due book Jan 24, 18:19
      - might have something to do with a mortgage bubble bursting round that time - encyclopedia pixie Jan 24, 18:16 1
        
        Housing bubble probably inflated home values in a lot of places. -- nm - the liioulu with due book Jan 24, 18:18
      - Republicans and/or conservatives blocking every movie he makes just because he makes it is a big part of the problem. - the liioulu with due book Jan 24, 18:14
We don't got Dubya to push around anymore. -- nm - the liioulu with due book Jan 24, 18:05

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