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In response to "people who already have insurance bitching about it are like married straights who think gay marriage threatens their vows" by encyclopedia pixie

Ask most STers here how much their insurance has gone up since the bill passed

Posted by bacon via droid (aka redmond) Jan 28 '12, 23:36

A fucking lot!! So I 100% disagree

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That wasn't true for us - last year was the first in 4 years when our BC/BS plan did NOT go up 30% -- nm - JenBro Jan 29, 03:57 2
- Mine went up less than 8%. Possibly the smallest increase I've ever seen. And no co-pay increases. -- nm - CovingtonCat Jan 29, 04:47
- mine went down this year. -- nm - amanda jones Jan 29, 04:41
Insurance premiums started going up rapidly in 2001. Right now, the companies are shitting their pants over the 80-20 rule. That is, they have to pay - Trish Jan 29, 00:07 5 2
- damn, why thehell are you not on CNN or Bill Maher? -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 29, 00:29 1
  - Bill Maher would wet himself that's why -- nm - bacon via droid Jan 29, 00:44
- I was simply giving pixie a retort on how this bill didn't affect people with health insurance - bacon via droid Jan 29, 00:13
- I'm bookmarking the shit out of this post. - Epiphany Jan 29, 00:12 1
  - Me either - why isn't someone making this front page. Ews? -- nm - JenBro Jan 29, 03:59
Which has nothing to do with it. How much had it gone up prior, or is that obama's fault too? -- nm - tRu Pad Jan 28, 23:41 22
- The mandates are raising prices. -- nm - bacon via droid Jan 28, 23:46 21
  - wrong -- nm - Trish Jan 29, 00:08
  - There are no mandates yet. None. -- nm - tRu Pad Jan 28, 23:50 14
    - Wrong!!! Kids can now stay on parents till 26 mandate. Kids can no longer be denied insurance even with previous condition mandate. - bacon via droid Jan 28, 23:54 13
      - wrong -- nm - Trish Jan 29, 00:09
      - no, that's not a mandate. the parent is not forced to cover their 26 year old. they can choose to or not to if they want - encyclopedia pixie Jan 28, 23:56 11
        
        It's a mandate for the insurance company. They CAN'T not insure them. -- nm - bacon via droid Jan 29, 00:00 10
        
        wrong -- nm - Trish Jan 29, 00:10 8
        
        Oh then insurance companies can drop kids and not offer policies? Wow, Obama is telling people tghat's one of his big achievments. must be lying -- nm - bacon via droid Jan 29, 00:16 7
        
        You realize it's not mandate when it's for companies right? Mandate refers to individuals - tRu Pad Jan 29, 00:25 1
        
        I have a copy of the ADA law (americans with Disabilities Act) with me daily and it refers to the mandate that companies shall have X Y Z in new const - bacon via droid Jan 29, 01:06
        
        from the site - bacon via droid Jan 29, 00:21 4
        
        forcing insurance companies to accept premium payments for adult children = not a mandate - encyclopedia pixie Jan 29, 00:25 3
        
        I looked up mandate and the def is making something manditory. Using your words "forcing". having no choice but to do a manditory requirement - bacon via droid Jan 29, 00:40 2
        
        seriously, stick to quarterbacks. you're embarrassing yourself - encyclopedia pixie Jan 29, 00:43 1
        
        There is more than one mandate in the bill - bacon via droid Jan 29, 00:45
        
        you should stick to football arguments -- nm - encyclopedia pixie Jan 29, 00:02
  - the mandate doesn't even start until 2014 - encyclopedia pixie Jan 28, 23:49 4
    - And there it is. That grace period the government always gives so companies have time to jack up rates. - bacon via droid Jan 28, 23:52 3
      - And wrong again. You are mistaking greed on the part of the company for government re-regulation. -- nm - Trish Jan 29, 00:13 1
        
        I am saying greed is what they are doing while they still can do it -- nm - bacon via droid Jan 29, 00:31
      - yeah, mean old government forcing those insurance companies to raise their rates - encyclopedia pixie Jan 28, 23:55
correlation does not = causation. how has the ACA caused premiums to rise? - encyclopedia pixie Jan 28, 23:40
Studies show it's doubled since 2004 -- nm - Epiphany Jan 28, 23:37 1
- health insurance has always gone up at rates much faster than inflation and would have whether obama care or not -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 29, 00:04

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