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my concern with the Avengers, is that there is too much shit crammed into one movie.

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Feb 23 '12, 10:48

like, blending all those characters, means that there is less time for story development.

It looks fantastic, but I fear it is going to be rushed.

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I would be more worried if there was no origin movies for any of the characters - eag Feb 23, 11:04 11
- IMO, you have pre-existing characters that you have to mold into a cohesive movie. - groiny Feb 23, 11:07 10
  - But see, that it is why it *can* work. They have each been established as an impressive individual, so you don't have to waste time getting the - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 11:10 9
    - you could spend an hour just in getting Iron Man and Fury to co-exist. nm -- nm - groiny Feb 23, 11:12 8
      - You could spend an hour filming fluffy pink kittens frolicking in a green meadow. -- nm - znufrii Feb 23, 11:14 3
        
        now that is just a dumb statement. - groiny Feb 23, 11:15 1
        
        my point being, a good storyteller could execute that fairly quickly. - znufrii Feb 23, 11:22
        
        but why would you? -- nm - znufrii Feb 23, 11:15
      - I don't see that happening. - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 11:14 3
        
        Plus you already have shown a Furry/Iron Man relation ship in Iron Man 2 -- nm - eag Feb 23, 11:17 2
        
        Man in awesome metal suit seeks furry friend for fun and companionship? -- nm - znufrii Feb 23, 11:19
        
        which was a conflict-related relationship up until when Fury had something to offer Stark. nm -- nm - groiny Feb 23, 11:18
I think Whedon will just flat nail this. He has always been an expert in taking complex - Capstern Feb 23, 11:03
Color me surprised they even managed to gather all those actors for the same film -- nm - con_carne Feb 23, 10:54 1
- This was in their contracts from the start, IIRC. -- nm - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 10:55
It'll be along the lines of a Harry Potter or LOTR movie. You'll be expected to know something after the characters before coming into the theater. -- nm - Mop (199 lbs) Feb 23, 10:51 18
- Not quite the same as you will be expected to have seen their movies. -- nm - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 10:52 17
  - Black Widow was a snippet in the Iron Man 2 movie, Hawkeye was in Thor for 30 seconds.... - groiny Feb 23, 10:55 16
    - Clips we have seen alliviate the later part of your worries. - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 10:57 15
      - clips will not tell you if it feels rushed. nm -- nm - groiny Feb 23, 10:58 14
        
        In Joss we trust. -- nm - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 10:58 13
        
        I agree, I think he is good, but I also think that you can only jame so much into 2 hours. nm -- nm - groiny Feb 23, 11:00 12
        
        Once again, I look at X-Men which had no lead-in movies, and am not that worried. -- nm - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 11:03 11
        
        the lead in movies are part of the problem, IMO. nm -- nm - groiny Feb 23, 11:04 10
        
        You mean complete movies that established origins for the majority of the leads? - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 11:06 2
        
        "We know TOO much! How can the film work if everyone knows the characters? They might have to resort to *plot* to fill time!" -- nm - groyknee Feb 23, 11:12 1
        
        like I said, I want it to work. It looks cool. I have a legit fear that there is too much to jam in there. - groiny Feb 23, 11:14
        
        In what way -- nm - eag Feb 23, 11:05 6
        
        you pretty much have to split time evenly between the 4 movies. - groiny Feb 23, 11:11 5
        
        You are really seeing this backwards. - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 11:20 4
        
        and you are seeing it as a complete Fanboy. - groiny Feb 23, 11:23 3
        
        True, but as such I will say be careful using "they" when describing Joss. -- nm - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 11:25 2
        
        I will conclude with saying that I hope it works. - groiny Feb 23, 11:26 1
        
        Agreed. I have faith in this one, like you have in Hunger Games. - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 11:30
Do you remember the piece I wrote on X-Men before it came out? - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 10:50 3
- I hope I am wrong. nm -- nm - groiny Feb 23, 10:53 2
  - The dynamic of your worry which is concerning is RDJ. - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 10:55 1
    - mmm, delicious. -- nm - jonesy Feb 23, 10:55
Let's focus on Black Widow... -- nm - budice Feb 23, 10:50 1
- ... in bed. -- nm - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Feb 23, 10:51

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