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is there an officially endorsed 1 gb memory stick of slacker talk?.... - x Jan 23, 08:00 4
- If you're going for size, I *love* the Sony Micro Vault Tiny ones. If keychain, I think the Sandisk Cruzer Slide is very nice - oblique Jan 23, 08:02 1
  - I've got a Cruzer Slide and it works great -- nm - decline Jan 23, 08:05
- I'm not sure you could even find 1 gb versions anymore, but Kingston and SanDisk are good (though I don't know if any of the brands are really bad). -- nm - Don Homer Jan 23, 08:02 1
  - SanDisk has some preloaded software on it I think. -- nm - lileve Jan 23, 08:04
i haven't seen the Wrestler, but from the clips i've seen i have to ask... is he suppose to be a.. - i'm not dead yet ! Jan 23, 07:55 2
- He's supposed to be a mix and match of many of the 80's stars who no longer have financial security. - Will Hunting Jan 23, 08:00 1
  - In particular, Jake the Snake and Lex Luger. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 23, 08:02
Grrr...I hate the USPS. I just found out what my christmas present was that was in the box I never got from my bro and sis-in-law. - znufrii Jan 23, 07:54
SITWAP: Hole #3: Par 4, water hazard on the left, small airplane landing hazard to the right. -- (link) - TaurusII Jan 23, 07:53
i think i like this designation for certain tv shows": a "laundry folding" show.... - x Jan 23, 07:48 10
- "How CLean is Your House?" -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:53
- Stuff on Food Network: ICA, Chopped, Next Food Network Star, etc. -- nm - Strongbad Jan 23, 07:53 2
  - yeah, i watched the first chopped. it wasn't very exciting....nm - x Jan 23, 07:54 1
    - 1st was decent. 2nd one is still sitting on my DVR. -- nm - Strongbad Jan 23, 07:55
- meaning a show that I would rather fold laundry than watch? because that would be a pretty bad show - dogbert183 Jan 23, 07:51 2
  - fold laundry *while* watching. - mafic Jan 23, 07:53 1
    - I know, just getting off track to comment on how much I hate folding clothes. :) -- nm - dogbert183 Jan 23, 07:56
- Bones, The Mentalist, NCIS... -- nm - TFox Jan 23, 07:50
- I'm stealing that whenever I slip up and mention Rock of Love Bus in public. -- nm - Amy Jan 23, 07:49 1
  - i stole it from some tv critic....nm - x Jan 23, 07:50
ML! The Impaler! I have to google him again. I haven't since he made a myspace page for his unborn kid (with his fourth child bride). -- nm - Amy Jan 23, 07:41 2
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  - /backs away from that blog slowly... -- nm - decline Jan 23, 08:01
oooh, first comment ever on my work blog: "linky is borked"....nm - x Jan 23, 07:33 2
- bork-bork-bork! -- nm - swedish chef Jan 23, 07:39 1
  - L2 -- nm - lileve Jan 23, 07:41
Weekend plans poll: Stay at home and play World of Warcraft, work out, eat, watch movies. -- nm - Redmond Jan 23, 07:31 40
- Re-order Dad's Christmas present, refill prescriptions, and the typical weekend stuff. -- nm - TaurusII Jan 23, 07:47
- Wrestler and Slumdog. (that's my brother and niece visiting.) -- nm - Max Jan 23, 07:46 1
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- Introducing g/f to sister tonight when we all go to the comedy club (Debra DiGiovanni), tomorrow final pot luck "Christmas" get together.... - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 07:44
- Coworker gathering Sat, save-our-charity meeting followed by Royal Rumble awesomeness on Sun. -- nm - TFox Jan 23, 07:43
- Eating is good, I recommend it also -- nm - con_carne Jan 23, 07:43
- Return to NYC and write a lot... hopefully sleep. - secretslacker Jan 23, 07:42 4
  - Why is there a grey shading over my post? -- nm - secretslacker Jan 23, 07:42 3
    - it means it's up for a vote on whether or not it will get deleted -- nm - dogbert183 Jan 23, 07:54
    - It's like that short story "The Lottery". - TFox Jan 23, 07:52
    - *explodes* -- nm - secretslacker's computer Jan 23, 07:44
- BSG and Bones tonight, tomorrow dinner with a old friend (thanks to FB) and Sunday brunch and shopping. Oh, and we are getting fancy cable. -- nm - Amy Jan 23, 07:39
- toddler gymnastics class! -- nm - prayformojo Jan 23, 07:39
- Ltitle India tonight. Not sure about the weekend, but probably a trip to the big LCBO to stock up on wine -- nm - Roger More Jan 23, 07:37
- Hopefully getting some sleep tonight, taking care of Andrew tomorrow while wife works, Mom visiting on Sunday so hopefully going to a movie. -- nm - Don Homer Jan 23, 07:36
- Movies tonight, Halo, Fallout 3 and cleaning the rest of the weekend. -- nm - krusty Jan 23, 07:36 8
  - Please come to Rodeo Bar on 3rd Ave. tomorrow around 7:30 pm and bring friends. -- nm - Diva Jan 23, 07:37 7
    - Woah, I've been there. Up the street from my brother's old apartment. That places contains a decent slice of fun. -- nm - TFox Jan 23, 07:53 3
      - It's some good times. Except for that one time someone may have slipped rohypnol into my girl friend's drink. - Diva Jan 23, 07:55 2
        
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        I don't remember. it's been a while. -- nm - Diva Jan 23, 08:03
    - You're in the city? - krusty Jan 23, 07:45 1
      - nmbkrusty - Diva Jan 23, 07:53
    - I'll be there -- nm - znufrii Jan 23, 07:44
- work -- nm - dogbert183 Jan 23, 07:36
- general cleaning, groceries, etc tonight. tomorrow, i have no idea. BFs son is coming for weekend. Probably a movie, etc. -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:35 2
  - How old is the son? -- nm - Don Homer Jan 23, 07:36 1
    - 15. - Andie Jan 23, 07:38
- my weekend started last night with maxwell strait at the phyrst. today slumdog. tonight WMBA election dinner. tomorrow revolutionary road. some school - the year of the ox loves mandy lane Jan 23, 07:35
- Working tomorrow, basket bingo tomorrow afternoon, hopefully seeing a movie (Revolutionary Road, maybe?). -- nm - kelly Jan 23, 07:33
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- Clean & organize (post-move) in prep for Super Bowl party next weekend -- nm - Strongbad Jan 23, 07:32
- i will be monitoring tt minute-by-minute so i can work on my presumed grudges....nm - x Jan 23, 07:31 7
  - Ongoing dislike is hardly a "grudge". It's just...ongoing dislike. -- nm - Amy Jan 23, 07:47 1
    - i just accidentally go to the board sometimes because it's still in my "most visited" list in firefox.... - x Jan 23, 07:49
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    - *so* presumptive....nm - x Jan 23, 07:44 2
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        carry on....nm - x Jan 23, 07:52
  - (spoiler) - oblique Jan 23, 07:32
Things I didn't learn until today: Natural Resources Ministere (and possible dark horse leadership candidate) Lisa Raitt is married to.... - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 07:27
wake me up, before you go-go -- nm - tRuMaN Jan 23, 07:26
Do people wrongly imprisioned in the US typically turn to a life of crime upon their release? -- nm - oblique Jan 23, 07:25 86
- "I had to come to prison to be a crook." -- nm - Max Jan 23, 07:46
- possibly depends on how long they were in. getting released with no job skills after a certain age would be tough to make a living -- nm - zork Jan 23, 07:34
- typically? probably not. how many people have been released from guantanamo though? and how many of those have gone on to terrorism? - mafic Jan 23, 07:29 10
  - the news article suggests more than a couple. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:30 9
    - yeah, it said dozens, but offered nothing to back that up. - mafic Jan 23, 07:35 8
      - I know. We really don't know how many. however, it is reasonable to expect that it is many. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:36 7
        
        ah, says 61 here. if that's true, out of 420 released I think it just underscores how flawed the system was/is. -- (link) - mafic Jan 23, 07:40 6
        
        I'm sure there are more we don't know of. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:41 5
        
        but there's no real point discussing them, is there? -- nm - mafic Jan 23, 07:43 4
        
        well, it's legitimate to be concerned about what's going to happen when the camp closes down. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:44 3
        
        if they're criminals, try them, if they're not, release them - mafic Jan 23, 07:52 1
        
        we've fubared the process. it worries me. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:53
        
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- It is not at all unusual. - pmb Jan 23, 07:28
- i think generally they get new jobs as straw men...nm - x Jan 23, 07:28
- in a perhaps more relevant parallel: an urban teenager convicted of a petty crime, gets sent to jail and hooks up with gang members while in prison - znufrii Jan 23, 07:28 54
  - Maybe you've seen Shawshank Redemption too many times. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:31 7
    - Have you seen it? -- nm - Don Homer Jan 23, 07:33 5
      - yes. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:34 4
        
        Okay, because that doesn't actually happen in the movie. -- nm - Don Homer Jan 23, 07:35 3
        
        Did you see the movie where an innocent guy goes to jail, then becomes a criminal, or was it a different one? -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:37 2
        
        straddling spoiler country there -- nm - zork Jan 23, 07:38 1
        
        sorry. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:39
    - never seen it, in fact. -- nm - znufrii Jan 23, 07:32
  - But are you saying that these people are not guilty of a crime? -- nm - oblique Jan 23, 07:29 45
    - no, but often times people go to jail for something very small, get out and know no other life but what they've learned in prison. -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:32 1
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    - I've said nothing of the sort. -- nm - znufrii Jan 23, 07:30 42
      - So, the people in gitmo are guilty? So we should let them go? - oblique Jan 23, 07:31 41
        
        how are these questions relevant to the point I was making? -- nm - znufrii Jan 23, 07:33 40
        
        Isn't your general point that these people did nothing, were picked up and imprisoned for years without cause? - oblique Jan 23, 07:37 39
        
        well, a lot of them go on to fight the system (prisoners' rights groups, project innocence, all that stuff), but if you get deported to Yemen, that's - mafic Jan 23, 07:48
        
        You also are asking this from the viewpoint that the Gitmo detainees are treated like US criminals. - Will Hunting Jan 23, 07:44 1
        
        yep, that's why they're in Gitmo in the first place, so they don't have to be. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:45
        
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        I'm not getting that from kilbo's posts at all -- nm - Roger More Jan 23, 07:41 23
        
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        can you link to one of his posts, instead of paraphrasing? - Roger More Jan 23, 07:50 2
        
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        It looks to me that you're criticising his tools of argument, and not addressing (what I see as) his point. -- nm - Roger More Jan 23, 08:02
        
        Good people rarely turn to crime and terror no matter what their circumstances? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 07:46 17
        
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        i think years of being treated with waterboarding and torture for information might just turn anyone from 'good.' -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:48 15
        
        Yet, there are countless examples of people who have gone through as trying or even more trying circumstances and haven't. - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 07:57 2
        
        there are always examples of being being strong, and of people being weak. i never said 'every person will become a terrorist' - but i can understand - Andie Jan 23, 07:59 1
        
        I'm not suggesting that you are being universal in your statement. - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 08:05
        
        I guess I have my doubts that this is what is truly happening there on a regular basis to the average detainee -- nm - oblique Jan 23, 07:52 11
        
        ah, see, i don't. -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:53 10
        
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        there's a huge difference between a handful of prisoners vs. daily torture as a rule to the population -- nm - oblique Jan 23, 08:01
        
        right (i was saying i don't have any problem believing that torture is pretty much the norm) -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 08:01 1
        
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        (It's why they are there - so that the normal standards don't need to be followed.) -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:54 5
        
        though they have said they've only waterboarded like 5 guys (or maybe 3?). the rest of them just get the 'augmented interrogation techniques' -- nm - mafic Jan 23, 07:59
        
        Military vs. civilian trial standards perhaps - oblique Jan 23, 07:58 3
        
        This is my understanding. That the evidence to hold them wouldn't hold up in a US court, but they wanted to hold the prisoners nonetheless. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 07:59 2
        
        yep, military courts have different - loosilu Jan 23, 08:01
        
        so, that's okay? by our owns laws we can't keep you, so.... we'll keep you anyway, just not "here". -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 08:00
        
        I'm getting that everyone is trying to push each other into the "extreme view" corner. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:43
        
        *marvels at the logical leaps being made on all sides* -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:40 2
        
        *pulls out the Jump to Conclusions mat* -- nm - Strongbad Jan 23, 07:41 1
        
        *bloop* -- nm - WiiJump to Conclusions Mat Jan 23, 07:48
        
        actually, no, that wasn't my point at all. -- nm - znufrii Jan 23, 07:38 7
        
        So what is the point of saying that "those that weren't AQ now have the connections"? - oblique Jan 23, 07:39 6
        
        first of all - there are other terrorist organizations other than AQ. Some people in Gitmo are completely guiltly, some were in the wrong place, - Andie Jan 23, 07:42 5
        
        Regardless of the organization, you still have two groups: terrorists, non-terrorists. I'm speaking of the non-terrorists -- nm - oblique Jan 23, 07:44 4
        
        it's fun to see everything in black and white, isn't it. -- nm - znufrii Jan 23, 07:51
        
        right. did you read my IM? -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:46 2
        
        sure, and it goes back to my point. How often do people truly innocent (non-terrorists/non-criminals) put side by side with criminals (imprisoned) - oblique Jan 23, 07:48 1
        
        i said it above, but, do you honestly think that being treated as a subhuman by US respresentatives for years might not change your very basic nature? - Andie Jan 23, 07:50
- wrongly imprisoned typically: sue -- nm - Epiphany Jan 23, 07:27 2
  - I think we linked to that story yesterday -- nm - oblique Jan 23, 07:31 1
    - yep likely to be the 1st of many - unless they shut this one down -- nm - Epiphany Jan 23, 07:39
- you mean at gitmo, or just in general? - tRuMaN Jan 23, 07:27 11
  - I was speaking generally to the mindset. If you're innocent of what you've been accused of - oblique Jan 23, 07:28 10
    - (and typically if you're in prison, you've been convicted, which none of the guantanamo detainees have been) -- nm - mafic Jan 23, 07:32 8
      - 3 were found guilty -- nm - Redmond Jan 23, 07:34 6
        
        out of 800+ prisoners that have been there, that's a pretty terrible average. -- nm - mafic Jan 23, 07:42 2
        
        it could be that the prisoners who were released, were less likely to be found guilty. - loosilu Jan 23, 07:59 1
        
        they've still only charged like 20 people. if they have the evidence, 7 years shoud be enough time to get *something* accomplished. -- nm - mafic Jan 23, 08:05
        
        and others have been found guilty in other countries. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:35
        
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        many people are imprisoned before they are found guilty. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:35
      - yes, there have been convictions. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:33
    - many people go on to fight the system that incarcerated them. -- nm - mafic Jan 23, 07:30
was there any Burn Notice talk? -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:25
Roll if it's Friday -- nm - Redmond Jan 23, 07:24

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