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I'm not getting that from kilbo's posts at all -- nm

Posted by Roger More (aka RogerMore) Jan 23 '09, 07:41

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- can you link to one of his posts, instead of paraphrasing? - Roger More Jan 23, 07:50 2
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    - It looks to me that you're criticising his tools of argument, and not addressing (what I see as) his point. -- nm - Roger More Jan 23, 08:02
- Good people rarely turn to crime and terror no matter what their circumstances? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 07:46 17
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  - i think years of being treated with waterboarding and torture for information might just turn anyone from 'good.' -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:48 15
    - Yet, there are countless examples of people who have gone through as trying or even more trying circumstances and haven't. - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 07:57 2
      - there are always examples of being being strong, and of people being weak. i never said 'every person will become a terrorist' - but i can understand - Andie Jan 23, 07:59 1
        
        I'm not suggesting that you are being universal in your statement. - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 08:05
    - I guess I have my doubts that this is what is truly happening there on a regular basis to the average detainee -- nm - oblique Jan 23, 07:52 11
      - ah, see, i don't. -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:53 10
        
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        there's a huge difference between a handful of prisoners vs. daily torture as a rule to the population -- nm - oblique Jan 23, 08:01
        
        right (i was saying i don't have any problem believing that torture is pretty much the norm) -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 08:01 1
        
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        (It's why they are there - so that the normal standards don't need to be followed.) -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 07:54 5
        
        though they have said they've only waterboarded like 5 guys (or maybe 3?). the rest of them just get the 'augmented interrogation techniques' -- nm - mafic Jan 23, 07:59
        
        Military vs. civilian trial standards perhaps - oblique Jan 23, 07:58 3
        
        This is my understanding. That the evidence to hold them wouldn't hold up in a US court, but they wanted to hold the prisoners nonetheless. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 23, 07:59 2
        
        yep, military courts have different - loosilu Jan 23, 08:01
        
        so, that's okay? by our owns laws we can't keep you, so.... we'll keep you anyway, just not "here". -- nm - Andie Jan 23, 08:00
I'm getting that everyone is trying to push each other into the "extreme view" corner. -- nm - loosilu Jan 23, 07:43

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