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A proposed law in Arizona could give employers the right to fire women who use birth control. -- (link)

Posted by zeitgeist Mar 13 '12, 13:59

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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/13/fired-for-using-birth-control-it-could-be-possible-in-arizona/ (www.addictinginfo.org)

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Since when do the rights of the employers trump the rights of the individuals? What the hell is happening to this country? -- nm - pmb Mar 13, 14:27 3
- When the employers started paying for their health care. -- nm - Ender Mar 13, 14:39 1
  - Employers have paid for health care for decades. In fact, they often used to pay for all of it. Now employees usually pay at least a meaningful - pmb Mar 13, 14:40
- when people started to think that god would like them less if they didnt legislate their beliefs into law. - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:31
I'm assuming you read the 1.5 pages of the bill to see what it does, right? -- (link) - spamlet Mar 13, 14:17 32
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  - I just wanted to see how long the bill was at first. Anytime something sounds crazy it probably is. - spamlet Mar 13, 14:29 2
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      - werd -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:33
- i thought you said this bill was 1.5 pages. - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:21 5
  - Sorry, look at the last 1.5 pages of the bill. That's the part they are screaming about. -- nm - spamlet Mar 13, 14:22 4
    - ok, i am getting there. but this is just stupid, we are going to require proof of medical necessity in one case - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:25 3
      - just a point of clarification, the objection is not that contraception causes sex. the objection is that they believe contraception is wrong. -- nm - loosilu Mar 13, 14:26 2
        
        so if you're married and using contraception, that's wrong. It's not necessarily about unmarried sex. -- nm - loosilu Mar 13, 14:27 1
        
        your reality doesnt negate my justification for the law. -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:30
- and that is a horrible awful disgusting invasion of privacy. and crazy. and backwards. and insulting. and wtf. -- nm - Diva Mar 13, 14:20
- the article says as much. They're taking it further and assuming that an employer will fire you after forcing you to disclose that info. -- nm - loosilu Mar 13, 14:19 20
  - "This is a direct violation of my third amendment rights!" -- nm - Beryllium Mar 13, 14:22
  - And if the employer has access to your medical information seems to me HIIPA would have something to say about that? -- nm - MojaveMeg Mar 13, 14:21 16
    - yeah,I don't get that. -- nm - loosilu Mar 13, 14:23
    - It's not your employer. It's the medical plan. - spamlet Mar 13, 14:22 14
      - which, also only covers businesses, these sections do not apply to plans sold - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:33
      - so, actually the employer would never know? -- nm - loosilu Mar 13, 14:23 12
        
        Right - which completely negates the argument being made in the article, -- nm - MojaveMeg Mar 13, 14:30
        
        It says employers can opt out of coverage for contraceptives if they have religious reasons. - spamlet Mar 13, 14:24 10
        
        I'll try to c&P the actual language - spamlet Mar 13, 14:26 9
        
        there's more.. women could have to pay in advance, then submit a claim with proof of a non-pregnancy-related need; and they can be charged a fee. - b. Mar 13, 14:31 5
        
        Actually, that's pro-woman. They could just say no contraceptive medicine would be paid for no matter the reason. - spamlet Mar 13, 14:32 3
        
        it's pro some women, except for the ridiculousness of the hoop-jumping being required for women with common medical conditions. - b. Mar 13, 14:35
        
        ok, explain this - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:34
        
        well, they are. The exception is for a noncontraceptive medicine. -- nm - loosilu Mar 13, 14:33
        
        ayup -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:32
        
        basically, it says an employer must file an affidavid stating its objection to coverage of contraceptives for - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:29 2
        
        Yes and that women can submit proof that the contraception medicine is for non-contraceptive purposes to still get reimbursement. -- nm - spamlet Mar 13, 14:30 1
        
        Which is the case in many instances, yes - it can help with acne and other hormone-related issues. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 13, 14:32
  - Because it's right to work? - spamlet Mar 13, 14:21 1
    - right, they are just taking it further, because AZ is an at will state. it's a stretch. -- nm - loosilu Mar 13, 14:22
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- Just wait until we make birth control illegal! -- nm - Republicans Mar 13, 14:18
Another Law gives them the right to fire women who get pregnant.... - Beaker Mar 13, 14:16
my recent suggestion totally needs to happen. the more details the better. - b. Mar 13, 14:16
Just what the... business community has been clamoring for?? -- nm - con_carne Mar 13, 14:15 1
- It was in the tiny print of the signs, beneath lower taxes and hiring incentives. -- nm - Will Hunting Mar 13, 14:16
This. Is. Insane. -- nm - Stephen Mar 13, 14:13 5
- After reading the above...I retract this comment. My apologies Arizona. - Stephen Mar 13, 14:28
- It's hilarious, no, wait... the other thing... disgusting that it's never about the men having sex. -- nm - Reagen Mar 13, 14:17 1
  - Ohio stat senator Nina Turner to ntroduce a Viagra Amendment to Anti-Choice Legislation to Support �Sexual Health Equality� -- (link) - Remlik Mar 13, 14:20
- Insane? No. This ... is ... ARIZONA! -- nm - Beryllium Mar 13, 14:14 1
  - It's the trope named for WTF [state name] -- nm - Roger More Mar 13, 14:16
it's the Return To Feudalism Act of 2012. -- nm - Reagen Mar 13, 14:11
Why not just fire them because they're women? -- nm - mara Mar 13, 14:09 1
- *gets a brilliant idea* -- nm - Arizona Legislator Mar 13, 14:11
"I believe we live in America. We don't live in the Soviet Union." That's some crazy doublespeak. -- nm - Roger More Mar 13, 14:05
so who wants to move to New Zealand with me? we could all live in a compound - ceregon Mar 13, 14:04 4
- and be in the same hemisphere as Wiggums? -- nm - peglegpete Mar 13, 14:05 3
  - At least we'd be safe from zombies -- nm - Beryllium Mar 13, 14:07 2
    - well, if mel came along, we could start our own hobbit museum. -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 13, 14:15 1
      - is he a Sackville or a Proudfoot? -- nm - Beryllium Mar 13, 14:17
L6... wait... OFFS -- nm - Spawn - The Blood Feud God Mar 13, 14:03
offs -- nm - znufrii Mar 13, 14:00

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