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Despite my theory yesterday (which looks even more possible today), I think it winds up being Mitt, but he's going to look pretty weak heading into

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Mar 14 '12, 09:43

general. Of course anything can happen, but the fact that his huge money advantage and huge organizational advantage (Santorum doesn't even have full slates of delegates in many states) is not crushing these yahoos is making an impression.

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This is becoming more and more similar to Dukakis in 88. -- nm - Strongbad Mar 14, 09:59
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- It weakens him because Romney will continue to be defined by his opponents, rather than by his own campaign. - Roger More Mar 14, 10:12
- Different levels of passion --- 3 months ago, Rick Santorum was a no-name. 2 months ago, he was shuffled back after Iowa. 6 weeks ago, he rebounded - Will Hunting Mar 14, 10:08
- I think "beating Obama" is a motivating factor for primary voters, not the mainstream general electorate -- nm - con_carne Mar 14, 10:08
- Obama/Clinton was Ali/Frasier. This is not that. This is a guy with every possible advantage struggling to seal the deal (and looking awkward trying - pmb Mar 14, 10:04 4
  - what that narrative conveniently ignores is this is precisely how the system was constructed, there is little opportunity to "seal the deal" -- nm - znufrii Mar 14, 10:08 3
    - It's a perception issue. If Romney was winning these states, even by small margins, the perception would be very different. But he's not, even - pmb Mar 14, 10:12
    - Sure there is. McCain had it all but wrapped up by this point in 08. - Reagen Mar 14, 10:11 1
      - 2008 was completely different, more states were winner take all, and half the delegate were awarded by Feb 5th. -- nm - znufrii Mar 14, 10:13
It is pretty close to impossible for Santorum to get the full number. It's not implausible at all for him to deny Romney that number though. -- nm - Reagen Mar 14, 09:44 22
- Santorum is like the Short Program in Figure Skating before the New Scoring System. You could never win the competition in the Short Program, but you - Diva Mar 14, 09:54 4
  - heh. (What is the new scoring system, out of curiosity?) -- nm - Don Homer Mar 14, 09:55 3
    - They've thrown out the old 6.0 scoring system with ordinals applied to technical and artistry. - Diva Mar 14, 10:01 2
      - The notion of a "world record in figure skating" will never stop sounding odd to me. -- nm - Reagen Mar 14, 10:09 1
        
        agreeance - it doesn't jibe at all. Case in point - the way Patrick Chan was scored at the last Canadian Nationals. Even the Canadian commentators - Diva Mar 14, 10:12
- Santorum's only chance is to keep gaining momentum and keep winning so that he's winning everything by the end. - Don Homer Mar 14, 09:48 16
  - Santorum as a third party candidate is plausible if there isn't a brokered convention. -- nm - David Mar 14, 10:13
  - on the other hand, Romney doesn't need to do much more than hold serve to keep the math in his favor. - znufrii Mar 14, 09:52 6
    - But polling in Illinois doesn't give him the commanding win from what I saw. - Will Hunting Mar 14, 09:53 2
      - which to me counts as holding serve. he continues his incremental progress towards eventually getting the magic number. -- nm - znufrii Mar 14, 09:58 1
        
        And he continues to move the needle on the "Romney is a default choice; not a chosen choice." - Will Hunting Mar 14, 10:02
    - I don't see anything that suggests he could have a commanding win next week. -- nm - Don Homer Mar 14, 09:53 2
      - A narrow win, sure. But not commanding. -- nm - Don Homer Mar 14, 09:53 1
        
        yes, I was simply speculating on a possible upside scenario for Romney. - znufrii Mar 14, 09:56
  - The more Santorum wins in 2012, the better he'll look as a candidate for 2016. So, why should he even think of stopping now? - con_carne Mar 14, 09:50 7
    - I suppose anything is possible, though I think this is his shot. If he doesn't win now, I don't know if I see - Don Homer Mar 14, 09:51
    - I suppose I should say "anything is possible", but this is his only real shot. There are real Republicans waiting for 2016. -- nm - Reagen Mar 14, 09:51 4
      - Though what is a "real Republican" these days? -- nm - Don Homer Mar 14, 09:52 3
        
        Given this group, guys who when you look at them don't make you giggle. -- nm - Will Hunting Mar 14, 09:54 2
        
        2016 will be interesting. There are a bunch of competent candidates, but I wonder which ones will appeal to the populist Republicans. -- nm - Roger More Mar 14, 10:05
        
        or scream in terror internally. - Mel Profit Mar 14, 10:02
    - he's not the "next guy" for the GOP. this is his shot -- nm - pixitude Mar 14, 09:51

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