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forget everything you've heard...and seen... anonymous scouts want you to know RG3 is a selfish overrated qb that treats people poorly

Posted by stewie (aka whysoserious) Apr 19 '12, 14:34

��Everybody is just assuming because of the Heisman and the socks and all that bs. . . . they are ignoring a lot of bad tape that he�s had,�� one scout told McGinn. ��I don�t think he has vision or pocket feel, which to me are the two most important components of quarterbacking. He�s just running around winging it. He�s [Michael] Vick, but not as good a thrower.�

�He has better arm action and is more accurate with his deep ball, but he�s not as good as Cam Newton,� another scout said. �As much as is written about his athleticism, his athleticism under duress in the pocket isn�t even close to Cam Newton�s. This guy, the only way he gets big plays with his feet is if he�s got a wide-open field and the sea opens for him. He�s got a little bit of a selfish streak, too. Everybody was laying on Cam, but for some reason this guy has become gloves off. He doesn�t treat anybody good.�

Another scout �questioned the way Griffin deals with people.�

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And has a big dick - JD Apr 19, 15:16 1
- I don't know that being a selfish overrated QB is strictly a black QB stereotype...on the other hand I do question his character to some degree... - Stephen Apr 19, 15:24
...and he only compares him to other black QBs. yawn. Unnamed scout can go stuff it. -- nm - Diva Apr 19, 14:37 35
- This must be a frustrating draft for racist scouts since Luck and Griffin are so similar in athleticism and intellect. -- nm - David Apr 19, 14:47 34
  - Athleticism? I don't think Luck is has half the speed that RGII does. - musubi Apr 19, 15:19 31
    - Track down the combine stats. Luck matched Cam Newton, but his offense doesn't require the QB to run any. - David Apr 19, 15:30 16
      - Fair nuff, like I said, it doesn't seem Luck has the same speed, but maybe he just never flashed it in-game the way Griffin did. - musubi Apr 19, 15:40 15
        
        I think RGIII just looks more fluid/polished in his movements because it's a big part of his game/the system he played in. - Stephen Apr 19, 15:54
        
        What you're saying is right. The most athletic thing he ever did was the elimination tackle after that fumble. - David Apr 19, 15:47 8
        
        It may be we're also thinking of "athleticism" differently. - musubi Apr 19, 15:50 7
        
        Luck is the fastest of the three, but athleticism is much more than simple foot speed. - David Apr 19, 15:54 6
        
        Really? Luck ran faster than a 4.41?!? - musubi Apr 19, 15:57 5
        
        Correcting: RG3 is clearly the fastest of the 3. - David Apr 19, 16:00 3
        
        Ok, thanks. I was so confused there. Point being, my interpretation of "athleticism" was just different that yours. - musubi Apr 19, 16:02 2
        
        This is a better 1/2 punch at QB than Eli/Big Ben in 2004. And by quite a bit. - David Apr 19, 16:04 1
        
        (Although we probably shouldn't expect 4 Super Bowl rings from them.) -- nm - David Apr 19, 16:06
        
        Wait. Now I'm confused. - musubi Apr 19, 16:00
        
        Wait, I read that wrong. Did Luck match Cam or RGIII's sprint times? - musubi Apr 19, 15:44 4
        
        Cam. RG3 was 4.41 in the 40, 10'0" in the broad jump, 39" vertical. - David Apr 19, 15:52 3
        
        Question related to that last bit. - the wrong element, bad guy Apr 19, 15:56 1
        
        Since Holmgren apparently made the call, it shouldn't but it probably will. -- nm - David Apr 19, 15:58
        
        That 4.4 speed is what I'm thinking about. Luck has good speed, Griffin is elite. - musubi Apr 19, 15:55
    - RG3 had 4x as many rushing yards and rushing TDs last year... a decent 40 time doesn't change that - stewie Apr 19, 15:27 5
      - What it means is that Cam ran more, not that he's a better athlete. - David Apr 19, 15:34 2
        
        the underwear olympics don't make me believe he's a running threat when he hasn't show it on the field - stewie Apr 19, 15:51 1
        
        Peyton wishes he had Luck's athleticism but that's a great example of how the best QBs rarely need to run anyway. - David Apr 19, 15:56
      - Well, who had the better weapons to throw it to? -- nm - Iron Spawn Apr 19, 15:28 1
        
        Both of these QBs are the weapon. -- nm - David Apr 19, 15:39
    - Half? He has approx. 92%. -- nm - Iron Spawn Apr 19, 15:22 3
      - I think you're making that percentage up. (nm) - musubi Apr 19, 15:26 2
        
        92%? If I were making one up, it would be something better. - Iron Spawn Apr 19, 15:27 1
        
        It's actually 96% so your totally made up number was in the ballpark. -- nm - David Apr 19, 15:36
    - he's fast for a big white dude -- nm - pixitude Apr 19, 15:21 3
      - No doubt. He's a hell of a QB and he toasted SC on more than one occassion, but I just don't see them being on the same level of athleticism. - musubi Apr 19, 15:26 2
        
        the scouts disagree with you -- nm - pixitude Apr 19, 15:34 1
        
        Something we should all remember for years to come is that almost everyone who participated in the Green Bay story liked Luck more than RG3. - David Apr 19, 15:39
  - I ask because I don't know and is a tangent but what sort of QB is RGIII? - Mel Profit Apr 19, 15:16 1
    - cam newton but not quite as big -- nm - pixitude Apr 19, 15:18
a perfect fit for Snyder's organization then -- nm - pixitude Apr 19, 14:37

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