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no black sabbath!?! - dogbert183 Jan 28, 14:36 1
- You should bite the head off a bat in protest. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 28, 14:37
UK �20 tax on broadband to fight online music and film piracy -- (link) - Loyola Jan 28, 14:34 1
- morons -- nm - Dane Duke Nuuk Jan 28, 14:34
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- "My personal demons *pay* to see her personal demons" -- nm - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:40
Since we're discussing him: I'm still so disappointed in the new Eminem single. - TFox Jan 28, 14:32 6
- his entire last album was a piece of shit. he lost his mojo years ago -- nm - Guy is so happy to be back in Portland Jan 28, 14:44
- there was a lot of talk that this new record was terrible. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:36
- It's not just him though, Dre and 50's rhymes are garbage too. -- nm - Krusty Jan 28, 14:36 1
  - To be expected from 50, but yeah, the Dre phone job is disappointing too. - TFox Jan 28, 14:36
- He needs to stick with producing. - Spawn Jan 28, 14:33 1
  - I just don't get it. He obviously has a lot on his mind, not leaving his house in years and so on. - TFox Jan 28, 14:35
Also, Garbage should be on there. -- nm - Reagen Jan 28, 14:32 7
- you're joking, right? -- nm - Guy is so happy to be back in Portland Jan 28, 14:44
- Shut your mouth. - Beryllium Jan 28, 14:36 1
  - ~shut up and let me go~ - Remlik Jan 28, 14:38
- Look out, here comes Remlik bias!!! -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:35 1
  - how can it be bias when it's 'correct thinking' - Remlik Jan 28, 14:37
- 6 out of 12 songs are hits. I say yes! -- nm - Qale Jan 28, 14:35
- oh hells yes. Spot 2 or 3 really. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:34
Someone put those debuts on a chart so we can debate which year was the best in modern music history. -- nm - Max Jan 28, 14:32 4
- 1994... for hip-hop, anyway. - Dr.Vermin Jan 28, 14:36
- I think we should have a ST Greatest Debut Albums of All Time thingee. -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:32 2
  - Idol - Monster Jam. whoa, was Billy Idol on that list? -- nm - Max Jan 28, 14:35 1
    - I think the debut vs previous band thing comes into play. -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:37
Massive Attack - Blue Lines - Stewie, GWB Survivor Jan 28, 14:27 2
- same with Portishead's Dummy -- nm - Guy is so happy to be back in Portland Jan 28, 14:45
- I was happy to see it mentioned -- nm - con_carne Jan 28, 14:27
Portrait of American Family is probably notable for beginning the career of one Marilyn Manson which scared the crap out of my parents. -- nm - Qale Jan 28, 14:25 6
- I didn't care for it at the time...thought it was warmed over Ministry/Skinny Puppy/RevCo -- nm - The Calico Cat Coalition Jan 28, 14:32 1
  - Ah but we just added it into our Ministry/Skinny Puppy etc. And did I mention it scared the crap out of my parents! -- nm - Qale Jan 28, 14:34
- not notorius? -- nm - Dane Duke Nuuk Jan 28, 14:28 1
  - Wha? -- nm - Qale Jan 28, 14:29
- yeah. I really like his stuff. He had a great gimmick and hit at the right time. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:26 1
  - the only time I saw him was when he opened for NIN and it was pretty impressive. - Mel Profit Jan 28, 14:30
Clash London Calling -- nm - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:24 8
- hate rap but like punk? -- nm - Dane Duke Nuuk Jan 28, 14:29 3
  - Yeah...that's me too...at least the 70s early 80s punk -- nm - The Calico Cat Coalition Jan 28, 14:38
  - one is obnoxiously loud music by anarchists that hate the man, the other is loud street poetry screamed by people that hate me -- nm - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:35 1
    - you are a cop? -- nm - Guy is so happy to be back in Portland Jan 28, 14:46
- Vermin? -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:28
- Wasn't their first. They made the list with their eponymous debut. nm - Dignan Jan 28, 14:25
- It would be The Clash's "The Clash" and its there. -- nm - TFox Jan 28, 14:25
- That is their third album, IIRC -- nm - con_carne Jan 28, 14:25
ST Poll: What is the first album you saw on that list that made you go "Ugh." - con_carne Jan 28, 14:24 6
- Boy. nm - Dignan Jan 28, 14:26
- On a scan, Coldplay -- nm - Roger More Jan 28, 14:25 1
  - regardless of their current over-stardom and suckiness - Parachutes was a legitimately good album -- nm - Guy is so happy to be back in Portland Jan 28, 14:46
- Did I mention I hate rap -- nm - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:25 1
  - I saw that. Heh. -- nm - con_carne Jan 28, 14:27
- Boy. -- nm - loosilu Jan 28, 14:25
Here's a vote for Mass Romantic -- nm - rollo Jan 28, 14:23 3
- Second. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Jan 28, 14:36
- I'd support that. -- nm - Reagen Jan 28, 14:25 1
  - I mean, it should beat cooleyhighharmony at the least -- nm - rollo Jan 28, 14:28
I'm being twitterspammed -- nm - Marcel, lefty like Obama Jan 28, 14:20
Things I Hate: Websites for major companies that have no contact information. -- nm - Andie Jan 28, 14:20 15
- can you find it on the site map, or google it -- nm - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:22 13
  - nope, here's the stupid site: -- (link) - Andie Jan 28, 14:24 12
    - you could always send to various default addy's like 'info@' or postmaster, webmaster etc but I found these - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:31 1
      - honestly, guys, these aren't the contacts i need. it's HUGE multiple company thing. - Andie Jan 28, 14:39
    - linky -- (link) - Marcel, lefty like Obama Jan 28, 14:27 9
      - yeah, that's not actually it. (i know i know), that's the brampton office. i need the Toronto one. - Andie Jan 28, 14:29 8
        
        Inquiries - Marcel, lefty like Obama Jan 28, 14:39 2
        
        but enquiries for which company? :) -- nm - Andie Jan 28, 14:39 1
        
        maybe Koch phone numbers still work? -- nm - Marcel, lefty like Obama Jan 28, 14:42
        
        more - Marcel, lefty like Obama Jan 28, 14:32 1
        
        yeah, that's not them. -- nm - Andie Jan 28, 14:37
        
        LYC - Andie Jan 28, 14:30 2
        
        Publicity and Communications has a number at the bottom of this news release -- (link) - Roger More Jan 28, 14:31 1
        
        thanks, i'll call her and get the right number. they have multiple divisions, and none of these are even in the same building, but, - Andie Jan 28, 14:38
- I know. Contact Us --> *web form* -- nm - con_carne Jan 28, 14:21
ST Poll: Working your way down the list from the top, what is the first album you see that you have never heard? - con_carne Jan 28, 14:17 24
- It might be Kanye West. -- nm - Andie Jan 28, 14:34
- Coltrane is probably the first I haven't heard *any* tracks from. nm - Dignan Jan 28, 14:28 1
  - good whiskey...cold night and nice food.....and you'll love it :) -- nm - Dane Duke Nuuk Jan 28, 14:30
- Kanye (hate rap) -- nm - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:23 2
  - heh. Kanye is hardly rap at all, really -- nm - Guy is so happy to be back in Portland Jan 28, 14:25 1
    - Well, not his latest, but of course the rest of it is.' -- nm - TFox Jan 28, 14:26
- I've only heard parts of Joy DIvision's not sure I've heard all of Miles Davis either -- nm - The Calico Cat Coalition Jan 28, 14:20
- 5 -- nm - Dane Duke Nuuk Jan 28, 14:20
- I've probably heard some tracks from the Miles Davis album somewhere but I have no conscious memory of it. -- nm - Reagen Jan 28, 14:19 1
  - If you've been to a cafe more than five times in your life, you've heard the whole album -- nm - con_carne Jan 28, 14:20
- "Boy" by U2 -- nm - Beryllium Jan 28, 14:19 8
  - but you heard of it on B2, before this poll :) - peglegpete Jan 28, 14:22 3
    - con_carne asked HEARD, not HEARD OF. :) -- nm - Beryllium Jan 28, 14:23 2
      - your right. -- nm - peglegpete Jan 28, 14:27
      - Heed the carne. -- nm - con_carne Jan 28, 14:26
  - *sigh* -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:20 3
    - I never really listened to albums :) Just individual tracks. - Beryllium Jan 28, 14:23 2
      - BOOM! -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:27 1
        
        Music was not a defining part of my childhood. - Beryllium Jan 28, 14:29
- #1 -- nm - Marcel, lefty like Obama Jan 28, 14:19
- There are a few tracks from Arcade Fire I have not heard. -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:18
- 5 -- nm - peglegpete Jan 28, 14:18
- Vicente Fernandez -- nm - CQ Jan 28, 14:18 1
  - same here -- nm - Guy is so happy to be back in Portland Jan 28, 14:44
THE most important debut album to ever hit the charts and change music, lives and perhaps the world - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:16 7
- It was #17 on their list -- nm - The Calico Cat Coalition Jan 28, 14:39
- name 5 songs. go. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:17 5
  - The problem is, there's a dozen different reissued versions, his most famous tunes were released as singles first -- nm - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:21 3
    - artists from his era and The Beatles really were singles bands. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:23 2
      - the Beatles helped create the idea of an "album" as an art form, as opposed to a collection of singles. -- nm - loosilu Jan 28, 14:24 1
        
        not really till the 2nd and 3rd one. They were still recording filler songs to flesh out a full length cd. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:28
  - Beatles are the same way for me. They should be on the list, but 1st album (outside of a few songs) is really lackluster. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:19
Not only should The Ramones have made the list, it should have challenged for #1. nm - Dignan Jan 28, 14:14 8
- Yessir -- nm - TFox Jan 28, 14:19
- and by an astonishing coincidence, it doesn't seem to be available on amazon.com -- nm - Roger More Jan 28, 14:19 4
  - I know they sell Ramones. -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:21
  - oh - my mistake. weirdly, when I searched for "The Ramones", Ramones didn't appear, but it did on a search for 'Ramones' -- nm - Roger More Jan 28, 14:21 2
    - Black Crowes, Boston and Oasis are all available as well. nm - Dignan Jan 28, 14:23 1
      - Yeah, all 4 of these are silly unexcuseable. -- nm - TFox Jan 28, 14:24
- I'm surprised no one mentioned it before me. crazy -- nm - CQ Jan 28, 14:17
- I hate when you make sense. -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:15
I haven't listened to very much Tea Party. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 28, 14:13 6
- if you want to make Jeff Martin mad, tell him he looks like Jim Morrison. -- nm - Reagen Jan 28, 14:17 1
  - If you want to make Dignan mad, play a Tea Party CD. nm - Dignan Jan 28, 14:24
- I saw some radio research videos and the study was in Detroit...and they were mentioned a lot. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:16
- The really only have one good album. Transmission. -- nm - Qale Jan 28, 14:15 2
  - just listened to some snippets of that on iTunes, kinda liked it. The only other album itunes has is Seven Circles. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 28, 14:17 1
    - The problem with Tea Party is they changed their sound so dramatically, it's really difficult to really enjoy their entire works together. It's almost - Qale Jan 28, 14:19
I can't think of one single way that Eminem changed rap, except maybe that a white rapper could be a respected megastar. - TFox Jan 28, 14:13 13
- His lyrically flow is ridiculous. - MDH Jan 28, 14:15 9
  - Yes, his flow is ridiculous, but it's not new. Del tha Funkee Homosapien laid a lot of groundwork in that department. - TFox Jan 28, 14:18 1
    - Rakim was awesome. Del was damn good to. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:18
  - Wu-tang were way more about doin studio work than doing it live. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:17 6
    - Yes, way too much going on there to replicate live. But Enter the Wu-Tang "changed rap" more than Em did. - TFox Jan 28, 14:19 5
      - I think Em and Dre changed the way rap is produced. A lot. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:20 4
        
        Beatwise? Dre has been redefining rap production since The Chronic though. - TFox Jan 28, 14:23 2
        
        very true. But I think with Em he really found someone that was willing to do things other guys didn't -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:25 1
        
        Probably true. In fairness, in my original comment, I wasn't thinking production much at all, since most rappers have very little input on beats. - TFox Jan 28, 14:29
        
        Exactly. And opened it up to new audiences. -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:21
- I agree. He's become noise. -- nm - Loyola Jan 28, 14:15
- I disagree with every word in this sentence. -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:14
- you're just pissed that he stole all your best material -- nm - znufrii Jan 28, 14:14
NBC news to cover the Spidey/Obama comic tonight at 6:30. Expect ebay prices to jump. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:12 5
- I hope they discuss how stupid Marvel has been in regards to numbers printed and notice to retailers. - Spawn Jan 28, 14:13 4
  - Editor Steve Wacker to be interviewed. I just got some 1st print Obama covers in the mail today via ebay myself. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:15 3
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      - well they are selling for $80 on ebay today. I've seen 30 copies go for $1300. We're selling ours for $40 a pop. -- nm - Remlik Jan 28, 14:18
      - End up? A couple bucks over cover. -- nm - Spawn Jan 28, 14:17
Oh joy. The atheist bus ad campaign is coming here - Reagen Jan 28, 14:12 4
- Go sell logic and reason someplace else. -- nm - zeitgeist for dogs Jan 28, 14:14 1
  - yeah, there's no place for that here. :) -- nm - znufrii Jan 28, 14:14
- I would love to have them here -- nm - znufrii Jan 28, 14:13 1
  - No you wouldn't jerkface. - nm - Cuzzin Todd Jan 28, 14:16
NIN - Pretty Hate Machine isn't available on Amazon. I'm guessing that's the exclusion. -- nm - JaxSean Jan 28, 14:11 11
- Yes it is. -- (link) - Cuzzin Todd Jan 28, 14:18
- God money, I'll do anything for you. God money, just tell me what you want me to. God money, nail me up against the wall. - Qale Jan 28, 14:17
- was that on the best Debut Album List? - Mel Profit Jan 28, 14:13 8
  - Technically it was the second official release -- nm - Stewie, GWB Survivor Jan 28, 14:19 5
    - Wait, whut? Wiki lies, sure, but what came before Pretty Hate Machine? -- nm - Qale Jan 28, 14:22 4
      - wiki says 'pretty hate machine' -- (link) - Roger More Jan 28, 14:24
      - The Down In It release is Halo 1 - Stewie, GWB Survivor Jan 28, 14:23 1
        
        It's a mere single. Shouldn't count. -- nm - Qale Jan 28, 14:31
      - I went running to the wiki as well. -- nm - Mel Profit Jan 28, 14:23
  - It was not -- nm - con_carne Jan 28, 14:14 1
    - the list is crap. -- nm - Mel Profit Jan 28, 14:15
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- Fantastic album. (and the new Ludacris, also awesome.) -- nm - TFox Jan 28, 14:12
No Surfer Rosa? -- nm - Reagen Jan 28, 14:10 3
- Come On Pilgrim is their first. nm - Dignan Jan 28, 14:13 2
  - they're excluding EPs (hence Arcade Fire making the list) -- nm - Reagen Jan 28, 14:14 1
    - I'm sure it would have been included otherwise. nm - Dignan Jan 28, 14:20

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