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Krusty, if churches should pay taxes should other not-for-profits like the Red Cross?

Posted by spamlet Jun 28 '12, 09:09

Serious question.

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Not if they don't actually make a profit. Some churches make large profits and should pay taxes. - Krusty Jun 28, 09:17 21
- I drive by a *huge* church that went up a couple years ago that on it's grounds has a huge house where the minister lives. - Spawn Jun 28, 09:21 20
  - Some people abuse it, so we should throw the entire system out? - spamlet Jun 28, 09:25 7
    - Actually, yes. - Spawn Jun 28, 09:35
    - While that's true, that doesn't mean that tweaking or improving the system isn't possible. - musubi Jun 28, 09:34 3
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      - they proivde many of the same programs that not for profits do, which is good, but the original reason for the exemption - Truman Jun 28, 09:36 1
        
        Because they work for God. - Spawn Jun 28, 09:39
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      - That's my point. -- nm - spamlet Jun 28, 09:36
  - lately, the firm i work for has picked up quite a few kc churches - Truman Jun 28, 09:23 10
    - That's a governance problem in the church, not a problem with it being tax-exempt. -- nm - spamlet Jun 28, 09:26 8
      - yes and no, they say a lot "the government doesnt require us to do yearly reporting, so we wont do it, no matter what" its a very common sentiment - Truman Jun 28, 09:31 3
        
        Then you are in the wrong church. Ours is fully open for finances and publish the budget and quarterly updates for any member. - spamlet Jun 28, 09:34 2
        
        yours is the outlier, not the norm. maybe you havent been to enough to seen that, and i am happy you found that sort of place - Truman Jun 28, 09:37 1
        
        Exactly. -- nm - Spawn Jun 28, 09:40
      - do churches have like BoD or BoT? because if only the pastor is making decisions, there *is* no governance. -- nm - amanda Jun 28, 09:27 3
        
        depends on the chuch type probably. most baptist groups have deacons, or similar, and have a few "boards" - Truman Jun 28, 09:33
        
        They should. Again, that's a problem with governance of the church. - spamlet Jun 28, 09:32 1
        
        look, all i think is that they should have to file some sort of informational return. - Truman Jun 28, 09:35
    - The dude switched to a new caddie *every* year. I honestly wanted to ask him, "Just how dumb are your members?" -- nm - Spawn Jun 28, 09:25
  - God is good. :) -- nm - Jim Jun 28, 09:22
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- Churches provide a lot of services that are also provided by not-for-profits. How do you square those activities? - spamlet Jun 28, 09:16 7
  - The issue to me isn't what churches spend their money on, it's where they get their income from. - Roger More Jun 28, 09:24
  - As I pointed out, the actual service entities should be seperate. - musubi Jun 28, 09:21
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  - The can operate not-for-profit affiliates (like Catholic hospitals) to provide services separate from the functios of religious practice. -- nm - znufrii Jun 28, 09:18 2
    - You're thinking big items. What about benevolence and other activities provided by churches? - spamlet Jun 28, 09:20 1
      - They should be seperate entities if they want special tax status. Pretty simple imo. - musubi Jun 28, 09:23
  - i have no problem with them not paying taxes (well, except for their shenanigans with payroll stuff). i do think they should be required to report - Truman Jun 28, 09:18
IMO, no. The not-for-profit endeavors are different. - musubi Jun 28, 09:14
(not Krusty), but no. Churches do profit. -- nm - Spawn Jun 28, 09:11

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