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I want to put everyone on notice...I'm about 1 more rude person and a shotgun away from turning into Michael Douglas. - Jim Jun 28, 10:47 20
- Pujols! -- nm - budice Jun 28, 11:09
- it usually takes less than that to make me wanna have sex with Sharon Stone. -- nm - ceregon Jun 28, 10:52
- I know how you feel. It's all I can do to keep some losing my stuff on some people. Blind Rage will happen one day I'm afraid. -- nm - sycor Jun 28, 10:50 7
  - So much anger in swing states. Must be all the annoying political ads. -- nm - ty97 Jun 28, 10:51 6
    - Missouri isn't a swing state this year! I am *so* happy. -- nm - spamlet Jun 28, 10:51 5
      - I think the Obama campaign would be silly to throw too much money at Missouri, especially since they don't need it. - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:54
      - My 3 weeks in FL during February made me SO glad I don't live in a swing state. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:52 3
        
        I am in Florida right now and my jaw dropped when a political ad came on television. - ty97 Jun 28, 10:54
        
        We'll have a lot for local stuff because we have competitive races, but nothing on the Presidential front. - spamlet Jun 28, 10:53 1
        
        See above. I'm not sure where this idea that MO will be a blowout is coming from. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:55
- I went apeshit the other day on someone honking the horn at me to turn. - groiny Jun 28, 10:49 8
  - this drives me *crazy*. -- nm - Andie Jun 28, 10:51 1
    - I swear to Christ, 20 years ago, I would have gotten out of the car and punched them. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 28, 10:52
  - Yeah, I'm losing it more and more. I had a complete 12 year old meltdown at the Mexican restaurant we frequent over the weekend. -- nm - Jim Jun 28, 10:50 5
    - Senor, you are no longer allowed here. - spamlet Jun 28, 10:52 2
      - mmmmm...Ruiz. Actually no, it was Las Fuentes, right down the street. We did get the bitch fired, so that made it better. -- nm - Jim Jun 28, 10:54 1
        
        We haven't headed up to Ruiz in a while. I think we need to make the trip - spamlet Jun 28, 10:54
    - I had an off duty cop blowing the horn at me the other day - groiny Jun 28, 10:52 1
      - It's getting bad, man. I can hardly hold it in anymore. nm - Jim Jun 28, 10:53
- Defense! -- nm - amoxy Jun 28, 10:48
Mildly amusing, in light of what happened: Romney's website promises to nominate judges 'in the mold' of John Roberts... -- (link) - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:46 2
- It is still up on his website...Wonder how long it will last? -- (link) - amoxy Jun 28, 10:54
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we're having drinking laundry next friday. what fun and exciting snacks should we have? - amanda Jun 28, 10:45 8
- Have access to a crock pot to cook stuff all day? -- nm - spamlet Jun 28, 10:52
- curried bacon-wrapped scallops - znufrii Jun 28, 10:49 2
  - weirdly, we had these two laundrys ago. -- nm - amanda Jun 28, 10:51 1
    - so *good*, right? -- nm - znufrii Jun 28, 10:52
- I found an empanadas place that has internationally-themed fillings - con_carne Jun 28, 10:49 1
  - (actually, raisins are pretty standard for an empanada filling) -- nm - con_carne Jun 28, 10:52
- jello shots -- nm - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:48
- you need a really good charcuterie plate. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:46
ST Canada Poll: Are you working tomorrow? -- nm - Beaker Jun 28, 10:43 4
- off Monday. -- nm - Andie Jun 28, 10:46
- Yes...but off Monday :) -- nm - Walt_Disney Jun 28, 10:45
- I am, but seems like it will be lonely here as a ton of folks have taken tomorrow off (Monday is a Holiday here for July 1st) -- nm - Beaker Jun 28, 10:43
- Nope, my regular biweekly day off. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:43
I think the best argument I've heard for universal health care (and I'd like ST to analyze it for holes) is that it makes for a more efficient labor - ty97 Jun 28, 10:39 21
- It's a valid point, but hardly the best argument. The best argument is that everyone gets the health care they need, rather than only the lucky people -- nm - mara Jun 28, 10:44 13
  - Ah, the lucky. We should raise taxes on 4-leaf clovers and rabbit feet. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Jun 28, 10:54
  - People fundamentally disagree on that reasoning though. I don't see how anyone could disagree with the economic argument (if it holds) -- nm - ty97 Jun 28, 10:47 9
    - I don't buy it. Health care is key, but people wouldn't job switch just because it's there. Current COBRA rules already make job swithing possible. - musubi Jun 28, 10:48 8
      - I don't leave my job because COBRA *sucks* and is insanely expensive. -- nm - JaxSean Jun 28, 10:50 6
        
        If you had another job lined up, you wouln't switch? Despite COBRA covering you in the interim? - musubi Jun 28, 10:53
        
        you mean 800 bucks a month for your own insurance is expensive? - groiny Jun 28, 10:51 4
        
        And you're unemployed. -- nm - JaxSean Jun 28, 10:52 3
        
        But that's why you don't *QUIT*, not why you won't switch to a better suited job. (nm) - musubi Jun 28, 10:53 1
        
        Ok, but then you still usually have to wait a month (or 2) for the new insurance to kick in. - JaxSean Jun 28, 10:55
        
        well, assume, like me, your spouse works but has no insurance through work. - groiny Jun 28, 10:53
      - Ah, I forgot about COBRA. Now I know. ...and knowing is half the battle. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Jun 28, 10:50
  - I agree with this. The economic arguement isn't job-switching, but preventative care being more encouraged and thus improving productivity. - musubi Jun 28, 10:46
  - You're right, mara. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:45
- I agree with 97. I've long said that the only way I'd ever get married is if I needed healthcare. (more people are married in the - amanda Jun 28, 10:42
- You know why I don't leave my job? Because there aren't other jobs - oblique Jun 28, 10:40 5
  - but you could contract -- be a part of the gig economy. freelance and make *more* per hour. -- nm - amanda Jun 28, 10:42
  - Yeah, I'm sure ty's point is valid, but I don't think that's a sizable group of people. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Jun 28, 10:42 2
    - I don't know - how many Americans have a chronic condition? And how many of them rely on their employer for insurance? - Roger More Jun 28, 10:55
    - This is probably the big interest point to me: Can we measure how much of a difference it would make? - ty97 Jun 28, 10:43
  - surely, you know people who only work for the insurance benefits? nm -- nm - groiny Jun 28, 10:42
George Takei has a real groaner today - amoxy Jun 28, 10:38 2
- Link? -- nm - miffed67 Jun 28, 10:46 1
  - If you are not a fan of Sulu, like him now -- (link) - amoxy Jun 28, 10:50
On the tax thing.. I get the reasons listed except for one thing - choice. - colin Jun 28, 10:37 44
- "if I have enough money to pay fully in cash..." The only people who can do that are millionaire, health care is way too expensive for people to - James Bond (aka Igor) Jun 28, 10:49 1
  - that's who I was talking about. why should millionaires get taxed because they choose to take on the cost personally. - colin Jun 28, 10:52
- It's akin to car insurance. If you drive, you have to have car insurance. - Inigo Jun 28, 10:47 16
  - i can choose not to own a car and pay nothing. -- nm - colin Jun 28, 10:47 15
    - You can also choose to not pay your taxes. -- nm - JaxSean Jun 28, 10:53 3
      - not legally. but i can choose not to have a car... legally. -- nm - colin Jun 28, 10:56 2
        
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        no, but i have lost 25 lbs since you last saw me. at this rate, i won't have a body soon! -- nm - colin Jun 28, 10:58
    - See Don Homer's point. With a body and being alive, you run the risk of needing health care. -- nm - Inigo Jun 28, 10:50 2
      - In other words, having a body would be the equivalent of owning a car in the analogy. -- nm - Inigo Jun 28, 10:51 1
        
        good point. what other things will i NEED at some point by having a body? - colin Jun 28, 10:58
    - And you can choose to have no health insurance, pay the "tax" and still have US shelling out more of our money for YOUR healthcare needs. -- nm - Jim Jun 28, 10:48 5
      - i don't know about you, but when i've not had health insurance, i paid 100% cash out of my pocket, not taking advantage of "free" services - colin Jun 28, 10:51 4
        
        god forbid you are ever hit by a car, or need chemo, or need something that isn't a visit to a GP. -- nm - Andie Jun 28, 10:54 3
        
        i have insurance.. those aren't worries! -- nm - colin Jun 28, 10:55 2
        
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        here the thing on all of this... - colin Jun 28, 11:00
    - can you choose to not ever get sick? -- nm - Andie Jun 28, 10:48
    - you can also choose not to live and pay nothing. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:48
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  - we can get in to that discussion as well. - colin Jun 28, 10:48 5
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      - that's not a bad idea.. you use an ER... you get a fee tacked on to your taxes. - colin Jun 28, 10:56 1
        
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    - on the other hand, having a kid requires one to undertake a lot more economic activity that *is* taxed... - znufrii Jun 28, 10:50
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- Health insurance is different because if you don't have it someone else pays for it. INEVITABLY. - musubi Jun 28, 10:41 11
  - Roads... thought those were paid for by car and gas taxes...if I don't drive or own a car, I don't pay for roads, yeah? - colin Jun 28, 10:45 3
    - Sorry to say, but this is a very selfish view of society - Guigue Jun 28, 10:52
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    - gas tax is covering less and less, general funds are covering more. -- nm - znufrii Jun 28, 10:46
  - Oh yeah, and there is no difference except semantics in giving a tax break for those who have insurance and a tax penalty for those who don't. (nm) - musubi Jun 28, 10:44 6
    - it's not just semantics - if my neighbor has a kid, I don't pay more taxes as a direct result. - colin Jun 28, 10:47 4
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        i understand what you're saying... - colin Jun 28, 10:55 1
        
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      - It is *exactly* the same thing, because to give the break to those with, the rate of those without increases. (nm) - musubi Jun 28, 10:50
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- one example I came across... - znufrii Jun 28, 10:41 3
  - you're getting a credit for having kids, not being taxed for not. not the same. -- nm - colin Jun 28, 10:43 1
    - in the end it's the same result. -- nm - znufrii Jun 28, 10:43
  - What? There is no tax there? - Truman Jun 28, 10:42
- At yet, you might not get taxed, do to other parts of that same law. There is a built in credit based on income and family size -- nm - Truman Jun 28, 10:40 1
  - this is true.. and it seems like the tax bracket for this is kind of pointless.. - colin Jun 28, 10:42
Team Obama has taken a moment for a social media gloat. - David Jun 28, 10:37 [Image] 15
- With the implied "Bitches" tacked on the end -- nm - amoxy Jun 28, 10:43
- I have to say...the term "Obamacare" really bugs me. nm - Jim Jun 28, 10:38 9
  - I have to say... the term "Teabaggers" really bugs me too. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:51
  - MuslimCare doesn't have enough syllables -- nm - Beaker Jun 28, 10:45
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    - I think it would bother me less if it wasn't something that had been floating around for so long. But you are right, he succeeded so I give him props - sycor Jun 28, 10:47
    - though, more accurately, it's more like "health care insurance reform" -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:44
  - It was meant as derogatory, but cold go down in history in the way that 'Social Security' and 'Medicare' did. -- nm - ty97 Jun 28, 10:41 1
    - Hey... - Jim Jun 28, 10:41
  - AHCAA doesn't have a nice ring to it, whether you support or oppose.. Obamacare does. - colin Jun 28, 10:40 1
    - See? I'd MUCH prefer the name in your IM. But there's no way to make Affordable Health have a negative connotation. -- nm - Jim Jun 28, 10:41
- I do like the fact Obama is embracing "ObamaCare" -- nm - amoxy Jun 28, 10:38 3
  - "Obama cares" about everyone, not just the 1%. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:38
  - because Obama Cares. - znufrii Jun 28, 10:38 1
    - f*ck -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:39
Talk about unconstitutional! Google releasing Google Chrome for iOS later today -- (link) - oblique Jun 28, 10:33 1
- Also Google Drive for Chrome OS and iOS -- nm - oblique Jun 28, 10:39
"Sidney Crosby agrees to 12-year, $104.4 million contract with Penguins" -- (link) - Andie Jun 28, 10:33
if you didn't have access to a microwave, what would be your go-to lunch? (this seems like such a first world problem. I'm polling to give tru ideas.) - amanda Jun 28, 10:29 24
- I do PB (&J) every day with bag of baked lays from Costco. -- nm - spamlet Jun 28, 10:50
- I had cold leftovers Tuesday, it wasn't good, I had McDs yesterday. Trying to be healthy today - Truman Jun 28, 10:38 4
  - supermarket salad bar? -- nm - amanda Jun 28, 10:39 3
    - Not one within 15mins of here - Truman Jun 28, 10:41 2
      - so, tonight on your way home, pick up something for lunch tomorrow. -- nm - Andie Jun 28, 10:49
      - you should have. -- nm - amanda Jun 28, 10:45
- lobster thermidor -- nm - con_carne Jun 28, 10:34 1
  - mmm, lobster humidor -- nm - Beryllium Jun 28, 10:35
- Ramen noodles -- nm - Jovian Jun 28, 10:33
- Skip lunch, if it's that much of a deal? -- nm - Jim Jun 28, 10:33
- PB&D. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 28, 10:33
- cold pizza :) -- nm - oblique Jun 28, 10:32
- Assuming you can't purchase lunch? I guess some kind of sandwich. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:31
- Eat whatever cold.. cold soup and pasta don't bother me. Or a cupcake. -- nm - colin Jun 28, 10:31
- Order Wendy's. -- nm - JaxSean Jun 28, 10:31
- today i am having salad (including greens and carrots from my garden) with a cheese stick and almonds. -- nm - Andie Jun 28, 10:31
- a pound of cherries -- nm - peglegpete Jun 28, 10:31 1
  - this would go great with a sandwich and a cup of soup. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 28, 10:31
- I would bring my electric kettle from home and have cup-a-soup. - Beryllium Jun 28, 10:31
- cold pizza? -- nm - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:30
- Sandwich -- nm - amoxy Jun 28, 10:30
- sandwich -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 28, 10:30
- sandwich. -- nm - znufrii Jun 28, 10:30 1
  - Whoa -- nm - amoxy Jun 28, 10:30
IN THE DOME, MOTHERFUCKERS - oblique Jun 28, 10:29
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- Agreed. Perhaps both sides could unite by impeaching him. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 28, 10:29
- Does this and AZ change your opinion of him? -- nm - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:29 7
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    - so, you view these as out of character with his historical jurisprudence? - znufrii Jun 28, 10:34 1
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    - One angle on this that I've read elsewhere - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:34 1
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    - I think he will have these blips every once in a while, but otherwise, he is lock-stock-conservative -- nm - amoxy Jun 28, 10:33
"We will never be the same again with this denial of liberty interests." --- Michelle Bachmann - Will Hunting Jun 28, 10:27 12
- you think she even knows what that means? -- nm - Jovian Jun 28, 10:28 11
  - it is random word boggle speak! nm -- nm - groiny Jun 28, 10:28 10
    - tea party mad libs -- nm - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:29 9
      - Someone should tell her she doesn't have to use all the buzzwords in each statement. -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 28, 10:30 8
        
        *finger to nose* -- nm - Mel Profit Jun 28, 10:31
        
        It's almost like the six sigma black belt guys who talk for 20 minutes and don't actually say anything. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:31 6
        
        I hear that phrase pop up here and there, and I I'm still not sure exactly what Six Sigma is... -- nm - znufrii Jun 28, 10:33 4
        
        "Six Sigma seeks .... - Will Hunting Jun 28, 10:53
        
        it is a fancy work for fixing processes with a rule of something like 6 errors per 1,000 occurrances IIRC. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 28, 10:35
        
        They're basically logistics people that try to improve a given process - Strongbad Jun 28, 10:35
        
        It actually started at Motorola. Process efficiency. 99.99966% defect free or something like that -- nm - oblique Jun 28, 10:35
        
        "Tom, you said efficiency 37 times in 2 minutes. How about you try to streamline that response next time by doing that less." -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 28, 10:32
I know I'd be sitting back, enjoying JackDawson tearing holes in the reasoning and inherent inconsistency of the majority decision. -- nm - znufrii Jun 28, 10:27 3
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  - would they have been so restrained in the majority, though? -- nm - znufrii Jun 28, 10:31 1
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*wonders if I would have had to wait almost a damn month to get a CT scan in Canada....* nm -- nm - groiny Jun 28, 10:25 8
- truthful answer - it depends. It would depend on what condition they were checking for and it would depend where you were. - Andie Jun 28, 10:27 1
  - Every one I know who had an emergency received quick service. But some mistakes will happen, that's for sure - Guigue Jun 28, 10:33
- do you have HankMed? -- nm - peglegpete Jun 28, 10:27
- heheh, um. Yeah, about that ... -- nm - Beryllium Jun 28, 10:25 4
  - Wait times are the big dark secret about our healthcare, I think. But I don't know what it would be in that exact case. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 28, 10:26 3
    - see, i hear complaints about this, but i've never seen anyone who needed something not getting it quickly (but i am in Toronto - i don't know about - Andie Jun 28, 10:28 1
      - same here. If truly an emergency you get in fast -- nm - Beaker Jun 28, 10:41
    - well, from the minute the doc prescribed it, to the insurance pre-approval - groiny Jun 28, 10:27
"John Roberts is obviously John Stevens� secret clone." -- nm - what Strongbad just read on another site Jun 28, 10:24 1
- It is amazing. One decision, compared to the hundreds of Conservative rulings before -- nm - amoxy Jun 28, 10:26

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