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probably far too early to know

Posted by znufrii Jul 20 '12, 08:29

but I'm curious how many of the injuries were caused by stumbling around in the chaos trying to get out of the theater, versus those caused primarily by being shot.

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Some injuries are not bullet wounds at all, just people getting checked out for tear gas inhalation. -- nm - mara Jul 20, 08:32
Plus inhaling tear gas. You could run into anything and not even know it from choking. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:31 37
- tear gas causes fires often. that's all you need in that situation. -- nm - zork Jul 20, 08:37
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  - In all honesty, police did nto arrive until after the guy was out. Any action would have been over by then. - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:36 23
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      - If I might be able to save the 12 year old kid that was killed? There is no debate. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:40 5
        
        When the problem is guns in inappropriate places, adding more guns to those places only ups the potential for bad stuff happening. - TWuG Jul 20, 08:47 4
        
        Okay, I give up. *Clearly* the thing to do was nothing at all. Hope he runs out of ammo, and go from there. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:49 3
        
        It's like your willfully ignoring all the added bad because that tiny potential for good exists. - TWuG Jul 20, 08:54
        
        that actually is the best thing to do. -- nm - zork Jul 20, 08:53 1
        
        Then you disgust me. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:54
    - yeah, how fast could they get there if the guy tore up the theater and went out to his car? nm -- nm - groiny Jul 20, 08:37 15
      - I am a little amazed that ST would rather let the guy keep shooting people, and just hope for the best. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:39 14
        
        if carrying a gun around, your chance of doing something harmful with that gun are way higher than the chance that you are in a position to be a hero. -- nm - zork Jul 20, 08:41 5
        
        That is not the debate that I am having. My point is, if I am at that same showing and I am legally carrying a gun anf this madman opens fire. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:43 4
        
        the point is that you carry that gun around all the other days that this isn't happening and there's a higher chance of something tragic happening - zork Jul 20, 08:50 3
        
        You are not listening. all my debate is is this one night. This one moment. Do you do nothing, or do you try? -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:54 2
        
        you sh!t your pants and run away along with everyone else. - znufrii Jul 20, 08:57 1
        
        You know what, fuck you znu. - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 09:05
        
        of course not, I just don't think adding more random bullets would improve things. -- nm - loosilu Jul 20, 08:39 7
        
        Well, that is how you see it. I guess letting him continue to intentionally kill is a better option. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:41 6
        
        i wouldn't want to the be the person who accidently killed a different innocent person in my attempt to get the killer -- nm - Andie Jul 20, 08:42 5
        
        Agreed. But as I said, if I am carrying a gun, I have a certain level of confidence and training. And it is my responsibility as a human to protect - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:45 4
        
        If your desire is to prevent the death of that 12 year old in this situation, then you get between the gunman and that 12 year old whether - TWuG Jul 20, 09:01
        
        Honestly, I think you might think you have that skill level....but until we know for sure, you don't...and even then, you are saying you're better - Will Hunting Jul 20, 08:59
        
        I would not, as a general rule, assume that everyone who might be carrying a weapon has the adequate level of confidence and training to be effective - znufrii Jul 20, 08:49
        
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- but you could shoot the guy. -- nm - loosilu Jul 20, 08:32 10
  - Big theater. It would take a lot of cans to fill it. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:34 9
    - so you could shoot the guy as long as you were at the other end of the theater with dozens of people in between you. -- nm - loosilu Jul 20, 08:35 8
      - and what if another civillian shoots you because you are killing people and don't know that you are not part of the plan -- nm - zork Jul 20, 08:39 6
        
        Chance you take. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:46
        
        and what if everyone had the same idea? - znufrii Jul 20, 08:46 1
        
        Because that *obviously* was the case. - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:48
        
        the SWAT team would take you out on sight. -- nm - loosilu Jul 20, 08:40 2
        
        Well, as they are obviously magic and teleported there, they would know better. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:46 1
        
        well, it's a good thing you have magic bullets that only kill bad guys - loosilu Jul 20, 08:49
      - If I still carried a piece and was still proficient, I would try. Duck down and see if there was an opportunity. -- nm - The Dark Spawn Jul 20, 08:37

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