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but they set up the Joker in DK, as a genius level intellect.

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Aug 16 '12, 08:29

so him being able to plan out all of those situations were better explained than this evil man Bane who just happened to have all this shit worked out.

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- lovely, lovely -- nm - Spawn Aug 16, 08:34 1
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but spoils - tRuMaN Aug 16, 08:32
Spoilers - David Aug 16, 08:32 48
- I'll assume that the IM contains two separate facts about the character. :) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 16, 08:40
- which was never mentioned in the movie - tRuMaN Aug 16, 08:40 15
  - See below. spoil - Spawn Aug 16, 08:45 1
    - both of which seem like something out of a bond film from the 90s - tRuMaN Aug 16, 08:49
  - You should have read Secret Six. Why didn't you? -- nm - David Aug 16, 08:41 12
    - because i shouldnt have to read a comic to understand a big movie like this. - tRuMaN Aug 16, 08:43 3
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        agreed -- nm - tRuMaN Aug 16, 08:48
      - Lazy. -- nm - David Aug 16, 08:44
    - What is Secret Six? -- nm - amoxy Aug 16, 08:42 7
      - A Gail Simone story. -- (link) - David Aug 16, 08:43 4
        
        have I mentioned how much I dislike DC character names? nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:52 1
        
        No, *groiny*, you haven't. -- nm - David Aug 16, 08:57
        
        A movie should be able to explain something without movie goers reading an obscure comic book -- nm - amoxy Aug 16, 08:45 1
        
        Not *have* to read it, *GET* to read it. - David Aug 16, 08:51
      - the sequel to Secret Five. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:43 1
        
        Which was the sequel to semi-secret four. -- nm - amoxy Aug 16, 08:43
- this may be true, but that didn't really come across in the movie -- nm - decline Aug 16, 08:34
- This. And Bane has 10x the focus that the Joker does and did not have spoil - Spawn Aug 16, 08:33
- where did they explain that in the movie? nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:33 28
  - Did you see the article on the Bane backstory stuff they had to cut out? - Spawn Aug 16, 08:35 3
    - no, I did not, but that does not help in the issue though. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:37 2
      - Just saying, they wanted to do more, but thought the audience could infer from the scenes in the movie. -- nm - Spawn Aug 16, 08:48 1
        
        from what you see just here on these boards , they chose poorly. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:49
  - Bane is my Joker. -- nm - David Aug 16, 08:34 23
    - I get that, but they did a poor job setting him up in the movie. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:35 22
      - The opening scene with him was meant to establish it. -- nm - Spawn Aug 16, 08:40 17
        
        if you have to tell me that, it did a poor job of explaining it. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:41 16
        
        You did a poor job of watching. Both sequels dis the same, had an opening/early scene with the villain to establish their intelligence levels. spoils - Spawn Aug 16, 08:43 15
        
        From those setups, The Joke seemed demented but brilliant, Bane seemed physically imposing with a cult leader vibe. - Inigo Aug 16, 08:46 6
        
        See above. spoil - Spawn Aug 16, 08:47 5
        
        (spoils) - Inigo Aug 16, 08:49 3
        
        Well, I mean the whole operation. -- nm - Spawn Aug 16, 08:53
        
        And the stock exchange? -- nm - David Aug 16, 08:52 1
        
        that was mroe brute force than planning IMO. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:54
        
        lol, that is not the point, homer. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:48
        
        saw it twice, and no, it did not help establish how BANE planned it all out. - groiny Aug 16, 08:44 7
        
        Wait, you thought Bane spoil - Spawn Aug 16, 08:46 6
        
        at what point in that did they establish that he planned the whole thing out? - groiny Aug 16, 08:48 5
        
        The same could be said for the Joker? I mean, we did not see him sititng and writing it in his journal, right? -- nm - Spawn Aug 16, 08:52 4
        
        the henchmen were talking about "joker told me to do X" and when it is done to "kill y" - groiny Aug 16, 08:53 3
        
        That was more because the gimmick of them spoil - Spawn Aug 16, 08:55 2
        
        "no, I kill the bus driver....." - groiny Aug 16, 08:58 1
        
        A bank robbery. Vs... -- nm - Spawn Aug 16, 09:00
      - Other than his voice and the split of his backstory, I thought they did a fabulous job with him. - David Aug 16, 08:36 3
        
        but, I would love to know WHY they were so loyal to him. m -- nm - groiny Aug 16, 08:39 2
        
        spoils - Roger More Aug 16, 08:49
        
        Yeah I had the same issue (spoiler) - Guigue Aug 16, 08:40

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