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Al Gore: End the Electoral College -- (link)

Posted by Strongbad (aka Rambler14) Aug 31 '12, 09:53

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So instead of a sytem where only the battleground states matter, we'd have a system where only the states with highest population matter? (thehill.com)

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2 votes per voter :) -- nm - Danedukenuuk Aug 31, 10:20
The states with the higher populations already get more electoral college votes. - Roger More Aug 31, 10:04 3
- Why *shouldn't* they? If a president is supposed to equally represent all Americans, why shouldn't all votes be equivalently weighted? (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:34 1
  - It's about not letting the best be the enemy of the good. - Roger More Aug 31, 10:40
- And abandoning the EC would increase their impact on the race. I agree with your IM. -- nm - Strongbad Aug 31, 10:06
Of course he does...Considering he would have won by 500K in 2000 if Electoral College was not there -- nm - amoxy Aug 31, 09:58
I don't see why a popular vote system seems strange to people. It the fundamental way voting works in a democracy. - ty97 Aug 31, 09:54 25
- The US is a Republic....not a democracy. -- nm - Walt_Disney Aug 31, 10:01 3
  - It's a democratic republic. The two things aren't mutually exclusive. (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:10 1
    - Its a 'Corporate Republic' -- nm - Jovian Aug 31, 10:14
  - It's a combination of the two. Law makers are elected, constitutional amendments are made through democratic processes, etc. -- nm - Roger More Aug 31, 10:05
- I wouldn't say I'm strongly against a popular vote - Strongbad Aug 31, 10:01 20
  - I'm not sure why you'd say it would. In a pop vote scheme, every vote is totally equivalent. And as it stands, both CA and AK are totally irrelevant - Reagen Aug 31, 10:16 7
    - As it stands now, both CA and AK are totally irrelevant - Strongbad Aug 31, 10:18 6
      - California is not irrelevant...But both candiates only come here to get money - amoxy Aug 31, 10:29
      - I don't agree. You'd ignore the smaller states at your own peril, since they'd be easy to run up the score in. - Reagen Aug 31, 10:24 4
        
        I'm trying to think of examples of diverse federal countries that have a president elected with a popular vote. - Roger More Aug 31, 10:33
        
        How do states enter into it at all, without an electoral college? Are you referring to campaigning? -- nm - mara Aug 31, 10:29 2
        
        They wouldn't. 1 vote in CA is the same as 1 vote in KS. Why is my vote marginalized because I live in a populous state? (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:32 1
        
        Why is my state marginalized just because less people live there - Strongbad Aug 31, 11:48
  - in a way, shouldn't it? -- nm - zork Aug 31, 10:11 10
    - It should. My vote should count for the same ammount as a vote in Ohio. (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:29
    - On electoral votes, California about 18 times as much as Alaksa. - Roger More Aug 31, 10:15 3
      - right, it's supposed to protect states like Alaska from getting bulldozed. -- nm - loosilu Aug 31, 10:16 2
        
        Not just Alaska. It's meant to lend balance to the 40 states that don't comprise the Top Ten. - Name Withheld By Request Aug 31, 10:25 1
        
        (though no one's pulled off that group of states since 1980) -- nm - Reagen Aug 31, 10:27
    - I don't believe so, no. - Strongbad Aug 31, 10:13 4
      - What does the Electoral College have to do with States rights? (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:30 2
        
        With the electoral college, states elect the president, not individuals. States are not even required to hold general elections at all -- the - mara Aug 31, 10:31 1
        
        So the aguement is that states have the right to deny voting in any way they see fit? (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:38
      - I think state's rights are fine (and part of what makes America a success), but it's also telling which particular rights states are willing to go to - Roger More Aug 31, 10:20
  - :\ -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 31, 10:09

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