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In response to "I don't see why a popular vote system seems strange to people. It the fundamental way voting works in a democracy." by ty97

I wouldn't say I'm strongly against a popular vote

Posted by Strongbad (aka Rambler14) Aug 31 '12, 10:01

I just don't understand the vitriol for the EC.

You'd prefer a system where California's vote counts 50 times more than Alaska's?

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I'm not sure why you'd say it would. In a pop vote scheme, every vote is totally equivalent. And as it stands, both CA and AK are totally irrelevant - Reagen Aug 31, 10:16 7
- As it stands now, both CA and AK are totally irrelevant - Strongbad Aug 31, 10:18 6
  - California is not irrelevant...But both candiates only come here to get money - amoxy Aug 31, 10:29
  - I don't agree. You'd ignore the smaller states at your own peril, since they'd be easy to run up the score in. - Reagen Aug 31, 10:24 4
    - I'm trying to think of examples of diverse federal countries that have a president elected with a popular vote. - Roger More Aug 31, 10:33
    - How do states enter into it at all, without an electoral college? Are you referring to campaigning? -- nm - mara Aug 31, 10:29 2
      - They wouldn't. 1 vote in CA is the same as 1 vote in KS. Why is my vote marginalized because I live in a populous state? (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:32 1
        
        Why is my state marginalized just because less people live there - Strongbad Aug 31, 11:48
in a way, shouldn't it? -- nm - zork Aug 31, 10:11 10
- It should. My vote should count for the same ammount as a vote in Ohio. (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:29
- On electoral votes, California about 18 times as much as Alaksa. - Roger More Aug 31, 10:15 3
  - right, it's supposed to protect states like Alaska from getting bulldozed. -- nm - loosilu Aug 31, 10:16 2
    - Not just Alaska. It's meant to lend balance to the 40 states that don't comprise the Top Ten. - Name Withheld By Request Aug 31, 10:25 1
      - (though no one's pulled off that group of states since 1980) -- nm - Reagen Aug 31, 10:27
- I don't believe so, no. - Strongbad Aug 31, 10:13 4
  - What does the Electoral College have to do with States rights? (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:30 2
    - With the electoral college, states elect the president, not individuals. States are not even required to hold general elections at all -- the - mara Aug 31, 10:31 1
      - So the aguement is that states have the right to deny voting in any way they see fit? (nm) - musubi Aug 31, 10:38
  - I think state's rights are fine (and part of what makes America a success), but it's also telling which particular rights states are willing to go to - Roger More Aug 31, 10:20
:\ -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 31, 10:09

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