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PPP's Democrat Poll of Iowa: Clinton 58% (Game Over), Biden 17%, Cuomo 6%, Warren 3%. -- (link)

Posted by MDH (aka MDH) Nov 9 '12, 09:17

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None of the other Democrats tested � Maryland Gov. Martin O�Malley, Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick and Virginia Sen. Mark Warner � cracked 1 percent in the poll. (www.politico.com)

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Warren is by far the most intelligent of all of those. - Loyola Nov 9, 09:23 18
- What has the 13% number been in past elections? Say 2000/2004/2010 -- nm - Strongbad Nov 9, 09:39 4
  - I'm trying to find it but turnout factors into it as well. According to this Kerry won 88% of their 11.4 million votes in 04, but in 08 with the surge - Loyola Nov 9, 09:51 3
    - The discussion I heard last night - Strongbad Nov 9, 09:55 2
      - You can't possibly compare to 06 and 10 because midterms have 40% turnout at best. Given that the white vote will continue to fall if this isn't the - Don Homer Nov 9, 10:03
      - I think if in 16 it's 2 white dudes going at it, it reverts to the kind of close result like 2000. It could break either way. I suppose that was the - Loyola Nov 9, 10:02
- Obama (and Bill Clinton) is just going to crush it at the DNC on behalf of whomever the nominee is. - Tim, the world's worst Halo player Nov 9, 09:25 4
  - I'm all in for the Barry and Bubba show. - ThunderProfit Nov 9, 09:26 3
    - IK,R? My god, the tickets they'll sell. -- nm - mara Nov 9, 09:37 1
      - as a traveling show they'd rock. But at the DNC they'd destroy. - ThunderProfit Nov 9, 09:44
    - "I'm a little bit country..." -- nm - Barry and Bubba duet Nov 9, 09:37
- 93% will drop, but not that much, and no reason to think the 67% will fall. -- nm - Don Homer Nov 9, 09:24 7
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    - Obama 95% apparently, Kerry 88%. -- nm - Loyola Nov 9, 09:38 3
      - Which of an electorate of say 110 million (I'm guessing) , is a difference of around half a million votes. I'm surprised Kerry was that high. -- nm - Loyola Nov 9, 09:43 2
        
        Actually it's a million votes. I'm stupid. -- nm - Loyola Nov 9, 09:45 1
        
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  - 67 was the number that surprised me. It's a sound victory. I wondered how much had it to do with social (choice) issues over Obama's likability. -- nm - Loyola Nov 9, 09:26 1
    - Also, for instance, Romney won 52% of married women. -- nm - Loyola Nov 9, 09:28
A lot can change in 3-4 years. see also McCain. -- nm - Spawn Nov 9, 09:18 9
- Hillary must win the Dem nomination (full disclosure: I was a huge Hillary 2008 supporter) -- nm - MDH Nov 9, 09:21 1
  - So was I, but I am not sure she will be the best option 8 years later. -- nm - Spawn Nov 9, 09:22
- I think the chances of John McCain winning the Democrat Caucuses in Iowa in 2016 are very slim. -- nm - Ender Nov 9, 09:19 3
  - The Double Reverse Zell Miller maneuver! -- nm - Strongbad Nov 9, 09:29
  - I think 4 years gives Romney enough time to change completely and run as a Dem. -- nm - MDH Nov 9, 09:21
  - You never know! - Spawn Nov 9, 09:20
- Clinton may have even been higher than that early in the 2008 cycle. -- nm - Don Homer Nov 9, 09:19 2
  - in fact she was up 20-30 points (depending on the poll) as late as Fall 2007. -- nm - Don Homer Nov 9, 09:24 1
    - But MDH says it's game over. No need to talk or post about it all any more. (Hopefully.) -- nm - mara Nov 9, 09:36

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