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In response to
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Hostess is shutting it doors -- (link)
"
by
ty97
People are freaking out. Someone will buy their assets. You'll still get your ding dongs. -- nm
Posted by
spamlet (iPhone) (aka spamlet)
Nov 16 '12, 05:05
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Responses:
these people just unioned themselves out of jobs. I don't know at what point "you either get a smaller raise than you want or you get no job" becomes
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amanda
Nov 16, 05:29
28
Hey, it takes some real skilled people to hit the "Start" button on the twinkie machine and carry the boxes to the trucks. -- nm
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Ender
Nov 16, 06:11
it's not about a smaller raise, it's about an 8% pay cut, plus a 20% contribution to their health care.
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znufrii
Nov 16, 06:06
25
sure, be pissed off. negotiate. but to shut down the company is really a fruitless objective. -- nm
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Andie
Nov 16, 06:14
3
But it's an artificial fruitless objective. -- nm
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JaxSean
Nov 16, 06:17
2
hee! -- nm
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Andie
Nov 16, 06:21
But then so are Hostess's "fruit" pies. -- nm
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Ender
Nov 16, 06:21
hurray for unemployment! -- nm
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Beaker
Nov 16, 06:14
Welcome to a 100% paycut and no insurance. Union demands aren't the only reason Hostess is going out of business, but they represent
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TWuG
Nov 16, 06:11
And is that better or worse than a 100% pay cut and no health care? -- nm
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Ender
Nov 16, 06:10
17
It's all the union's fault not the company for refusing to negotiate?
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Krusty
Nov 16, 06:16
16
they were in bankruptcy protection, it's not like they were recording record profits -- nm
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Beaker
Nov 16, 06:20
15
Doesn't change the fact that there are two sides and everyone is blaming the union.
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Krusty
Nov 16, 06:23
13
in most cases this is true, but when the company says "we need this or we are done" there isn't much room for negotiation
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Beaker
Nov 16, 06:29
Without the strike Hostess might have emerged from bankruptcy and people would still have work. With the strike 18,000 people are now unemployed.
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TWuG
Nov 16, 06:27
1
right. If you aren't happy with the pay cut, then, by all means find another job. no-one will stop you. now, everyone has to find a new job
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Andie
Nov 16, 06:31
Yes, the workers should be happy they had a job.
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Strongbad
Nov 16, 06:25
9
I'd rather be laid off or fired. -- nm
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Krusty
Nov 16, 06:29
8
And people wonder why unions are held in such low regard.
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TWuG
Nov 16, 06:33
2
Why is it them refusing to work with management and not management's fault for not working with the union? -- nm
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Krusty
Nov 16, 06:38
1
If the company is in bankruptcy protection, don't you think management stretched as far as it could go? -- nm
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Strongbad
Nov 16, 06:42
Okay then. -- nm
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Strongbad
Nov 16, 06:31
well, then, if you worked for Hostess, you would be happy. -- nm
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Andie
Nov 16, 06:29
3
I wouldn't be happy at all. But I'm not going sit here and let everyone bash unions when there are two sides.
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Krusty
Nov 16, 06:37
2
Unions suck shit. -- nm
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Bacon via droid
Nov 16, 06:40
there are two sides, absolutely. but, i don't see how you can think that the union in ANY WAY helped its members here? -- nm
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Andie
Nov 16, 06:39
"What do we want?" " More blood from a stone!" "When do we want it?"
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TWuG
Nov 16, 06:22
This. -- nm
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Krusty
Nov 16, 06:07
This. -- nm
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Strongbad
Nov 16, 06:04
I only care because they bought Drake which makes the best snack cakes.
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ty97
Nov 16, 05:07
3
we used to have taste-offs in college. I preferred hohos. sarah preferred yodels. she was wrong, as are you. -- nm
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amanda
Nov 16, 05:27
2
Ring Dings rule all snack cakes.
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ty97
Nov 16, 05:50
1
it's weird how badly it's possible to spell "little debbie zebra cakes." hm. -- nm
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amanda
Nov 16, 05:55
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