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In response to "it's not about a smaller raise, it's about an 8% pay cut, plus a 20% contribution to their health care." by znufrii

And is that better or worse than a 100% pay cut and no health care? -- nm

Posted by Ender (aka Ender) Nov 16 '12, 06:10

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It's all the union's fault not the company for refusing to negotiate? - Krusty Nov 16, 06:16 16
- they were in bankruptcy protection, it's not like they were recording record profits -- nm - Beaker Nov 16, 06:20 15
  - Doesn't change the fact that there are two sides and everyone is blaming the union. - Krusty Nov 16, 06:23 13
    - in most cases this is true, but when the company says "we need this or we are done" there isn't much room for negotiation - Beaker Nov 16, 06:29
    - Without the strike Hostess might have emerged from bankruptcy and people would still have work. With the strike 18,000 people are now unemployed. - TWuG Nov 16, 06:27 1
      - right. If you aren't happy with the pay cut, then, by all means find another job. no-one will stop you. now, everyone has to find a new job - Andie Nov 16, 06:31
    - Yes, the workers should be happy they had a job. - Strongbad Nov 16, 06:25 9
      - I'd rather be laid off or fired. -- nm - Krusty Nov 16, 06:29 8
        
        And people wonder why unions are held in such low regard. - TWuG Nov 16, 06:33 2
        
        Why is it them refusing to work with management and not management's fault for not working with the union? -- nm - Krusty Nov 16, 06:38 1
        
        If the company is in bankruptcy protection, don't you think management stretched as far as it could go? -- nm - Strongbad Nov 16, 06:42
        
        Okay then. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 16, 06:31
        
        well, then, if you worked for Hostess, you would be happy. -- nm - Andie Nov 16, 06:29 3
        
        I wouldn't be happy at all. But I'm not going sit here and let everyone bash unions when there are two sides. - Krusty Nov 16, 06:37 2
        
        Unions suck shit. -- nm - Bacon via droid Nov 16, 06:40
        
        there are two sides, absolutely. but, i don't see how you can think that the union in ANY WAY helped its members here? -- nm - Andie Nov 16, 06:39
  - "What do we want?" " More blood from a stone!" "When do we want it?" - TWuG Nov 16, 06:22

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