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Looking over the B2 Union thread...who knew there was a topic that could have Strongbad, Ender, TWuG and me all agreeing?

Posted by Jim (aka Jim) Nov 16 '12, 06:40

Weird.

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even in a country like Denmark there are really a lot of "union haters" around - DaneDukeNuuk Nov 16, 06:57 2
- Sounds like ST. - Krusty Nov 16, 07:01 1
  - i can understand why christians hate unions on principle - DaneDukeNuuk Nov 16, 07:13
I think it's funny that people recognize how shitty their employers treat them, and not connect that to the decline in union membership - Reagen Nov 16, 06:56 2
- Employers treat employees as interchangeable cogs. The answer isn't (usually) to unionize but to make yourself a better cog than can be useful to - TWuG Nov 16, 07:06 1
  - yes that is the right wing look at the solution ofcourse it won't really work but for a few - DaneDukeNuuk Nov 16, 07:16
The "Idea" of unions is good and necessary. The "Actual practice" of many unions is terrible, negative and worthless. -- nm - volnelk Nov 16, 06:50 1
- I agree with this in general. -- nm - amanda Nov 16, 07:43
Bunch of anti-union haters of the American worker. - Krusty Nov 16, 06:44 5
- Hehe, as a Jets fan you suffered enough. I should back off the union bashing, - Bacon Nov 16, 06:54 3
  - Bash away. I'm making a list. -- nm - Krusty Nov 16, 06:57 2
    - We took a vote and are closing down ST because Berry doesn't give us a cut of Berrymanders -- nm - Bacon Nov 16, 06:58 1
      - And Berrycare -- nm - Bacon Nov 16, 06:58
- Don't forget the troops. We hate them too. ;) -- nm - Jim Nov 16, 06:44
I was a member of two unions and they suck shit. There is a reason they are being put out of existance - Bacon via droid Nov 16, 06:42 25
- I'm a huge fan of unions and there are less because of a number of reasons but not because they don't do their job for the workers. -- nm - Krusty Nov 16, 06:46 7
  - Well, this one just had 1/3 the workforce cost the entire workforce their jobs. - Will Hunting Nov 16, 06:48 6
    - The dirty little secret I learned about unions is that they will let an entire company fail so they don't have to renegotiat other companies contracts - Bacon Nov 16, 06:57 2
      - Yes, especially by refusing to allow the line employees vote on the contract. - spamlet Nov 16, 07:11
      - this is exactly what I figured happened as well -- nm - Beaker Nov 16, 07:05
    - Incomeptent isn't the same thing as unneccesary. -- nm - Reagen Nov 16, 06:57
    - I agree with the IM. -- nm - Jim Nov 16, 06:55
    - My guess is also long time workers lost their pension and retirement too. - Bacon Nov 16, 06:52
- I wonder how long it'll take before it's Obama's fault that we don't have Suzy-Qs anymore. -- nm - Jim Nov 16, 06:43 16
  - They will now be made in China and be called Suzi Quans -- nm - Bacon Nov 16, 06:53 1
    - or long duck dongs -- nm - amanda Nov 16, 07:39
  - Didn't you read the user comments on the Hostess story? - Cuzzin Todd Nov 16, 06:46 13
    - No, I didn't. Guess I should have. :) -- nm - Jim Nov 16, 06:47 12
      - And it was quite a doozy of a rant. (pasted in IM) - Cuzzin Todd Nov 16, 06:50 11
        
        So bow down to her if you want, bow to her. Bow to the Queen of Slime, the Queen of Filth, the Queen of Putrescence. Boo. Boo. Rubbish. Filth. Slime." -- nm - Beaker Nov 16, 07:07
        
        that's a lot of ownership. - Mel Profit Nov 16, 07:05
        
        I stopped reading at "bowing to the Soviet Union" -- nm - TWuG Nov 16, 06:57 2
        
        A lot of people miss the "clarity" of the Cold War. -- nm - Reagen Nov 16, 07:03 1
        
        you kind of knew who the enemy was by the funny accents. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 16, 07:06
        
        I see no mention of Twinkies. -- nm - Dano Nov 16, 06:54 2
        
        Obvioulsy he had the rant prepared and was just itching for someplace to post it. But c'mon buccy, at least tangentially tie it to Hostess. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Nov 16, 07:01 1
        
        (buccy = buddy) -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Nov 16, 07:01
        
        That is epic!! -- nm - Jim Nov 16, 06:52 2
        
        The man must REALLY love his Ho-Hos. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Nov 16, 06:53 1
        
        on a roll like that? you know he's a closet snowballer -- nm - the man with the golden geist Nov 16, 13:14
It's my one failing as a Democratic voter. I am not a fan of most unions. -- nm - TWuG Nov 16, 06:41 15
- i think unions somehow make their workers feel more entitled, and have sort of lost track of the reality of the modern work force. - Andie Nov 16, 06:43 12
  - It's a case where the idea is a good one (workers coming together to protect themselves) but in practice they've become an unwieldy problem. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Nov 16, 06:51
  - they were all about safety initially -- nm - Beaker Nov 16, 06:47 1
    - Yes, which was good back in the day. Now the Government has those laws in place. -- nm - Bacon Nov 16, 06:55
  - They served the ultimate purpose, back in the day. I really believe that the concept has outlived its usefulness. -- nm - Jim Nov 16, 06:44 8
    - Yes, back when there were no child labor laws and people's limbs were being hacked off, they had a clear purpose. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 16, 06:47
    - I think unions serve a purpose where there is a very large power differential between employer/employee, usually from the employer being a near - TWuG Nov 16, 06:47
    - The unions are needed in places they can't get into, like food processing plants -- nm - amoxy Nov 16, 06:46
    - oh, i absolutely think they had (and could *have*) a great purpose. - Andie Nov 16, 06:44 4
      - My back-of-a-napkin idea is for unions to move from being representatives for another company's employees and instead become a Guild - TWuG Nov 16, 06:52 3
        
        And they distribute the +2 Agility longswords -- nm - Guigue Nov 16, 06:54 1
        
        Don't forget the Lollipops. -- nm - Dano Nov 16, 06:56
        
        would it become a lowest bid type situation? that might be worse -- nm - Pippygalore Nov 16, 06:53
- Having been a member of Local 655 of UCFW, I'm 100% with you on this. Not a fan either. -- nm - Jim Nov 16, 06:42
- *swoon* -- nm - Strongbad Nov 16, 06:41
*buys all the Twinkies around to horde in my bunker* - Will Hunting Nov 16, 06:40 5
- *buys all the twinkies and puts them on ebay for $10 a twinkie* -- nm - Bacon Nov 16, 06:55
- someone put a box up on ebay for $ 500 -- (link) - Pippygalore Nov 16, 06:54
- *Buys the rights to make Twinkies, thereby reducing the value of Will's hoard* -- nm - TWuG Nov 16, 06:42 2
  - *contracts with the factory owner to host quilting fairs in the manufacturing building* -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 16, 06:45 1
    - Hmmm.... Can you quilt little Twinkie Cozies? Because I have an idea.... -- nm - TWuG Nov 16, 07:03
heh -- nm - Beaker Nov 16, 06:40

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