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In response to "Both McGwire and Palmeiro were much more borderline cases than Bonds or Clemens, but overall I agree with you." by musubi

McGwire is #10 all time in OPS. He's ahead of Mickey Mantle. That's not what I call borderline. -- nm

Posted by David (aka David) Nov 28 '12, 11:29

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That stat is....impacted by roiding balls to Kansas and having pitchers fear you for being able to roid a ball to Kansas - Will Hunting Nov 28, 11:31 7
- That's the conversation. Why would Clemens get a pass for the cheating if McGwire, one of the 10 best power hitters ever, does not? -- nm - David Nov 28, 11:32 6
  - He wouldn't for me...I'd put both out. I'd be more inclined for Bonds and Raffy to be in becuase their skillsets - Will Hunting Nov 28, 11:37 5
    - Just adding info to the conversation, McGwire told SI that he started using Creatine in 97. - David Nov 28, 11:40 3
      - So, 87 to 96...he was all about the power, but his other contributions waned... - Will Hunting Nov 28, 11:56 2
        
        His stats in 95 and 96 were 1.125 and 1.198. If he's not using until some point in mid-97, those are hard to explain. -- nm - David Nov 28, 11:58 1
        
        Honestly, the McGwire in 1995 was about miles bigger than 1992. - Will Hunting Nov 28, 12:00
    - This -- nm - amoxy Nov 28, 11:39

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