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In response to "McGwire is #10 all time in OPS. He's ahead of Mickey Mantle. That's not what I call borderline. -- nm" by David

That stat is....impacted by roiding balls to Kansas and having pitchers fear you for being able to roid a ball to Kansas

Posted by Will Hunting (aka Joemetz) Nov 28 '12, 11:31

Barry Bonds walked 232 times in a season...it wasn't becuase pitchers were wild.

He had a OBP of .350 just on walks.

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That's the conversation. Why would Clemens get a pass for the cheating if McGwire, one of the 10 best power hitters ever, does not? -- nm - David Nov 28, 11:32 6
- He wouldn't for me...I'd put both out. I'd be more inclined for Bonds and Raffy to be in becuase their skillsets - Will Hunting Nov 28, 11:37 5
  - Just adding info to the conversation, McGwire told SI that he started using Creatine in 97. - David Nov 28, 11:40 3
    - So, 87 to 96...he was all about the power, but his other contributions waned... - Will Hunting Nov 28, 11:56 2
      - His stats in 95 and 96 were 1.125 and 1.198. If he's not using until some point in mid-97, those are hard to explain. -- nm - David Nov 28, 11:58 1
        
        Honestly, the McGwire in 1995 was about miles bigger than 1992. - Will Hunting Nov 28, 12:00
  - This -- nm - amoxy Nov 28, 11:39

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