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In response to "That's the conversation. Why would Clemens get a pass for the cheating if McGwire, one of the 10 best power hitters ever, does not? -- nm" by David

He wouldn't for me...I'd put both out. I'd be more inclined for Bonds and Raffy to be in becuase their skillsets

Posted by Will Hunting (aka Joemetz) Nov 28 '12, 11:37

were so much more varied.

I'm coming to the idea that judge em till they were roiding.

For Bonds, that's 1999.
For McGwire, that's what, 1995?
For Sosa, that's 1998.
For Clemens, that's 1997.

Bonds was all-world till 1999, then he was all-time.
McGwire was Dave Kingman until he roided up and scared pitchers shitless.
Sosa was a fraud.
Clemens was a meh pitcher from 1993-1996; left for Toronto and then became God.

I'd much rather have Bonds who was great for 12 years over Clemens who was great for 7 (and then quit on his franchise and then started cheating)

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Just adding info to the conversation, McGwire told SI that he started using Creatine in 97. - David Nov 28, 11:40 3
- So, 87 to 96...he was all about the power, but his other contributions waned... - Will Hunting Nov 28, 11:56 2
  - His stats in 95 and 96 were 1.125 and 1.198. If he's not using until some point in mid-97, those are hard to explain. -- nm - David Nov 28, 11:58 1
    - Honestly, the McGwire in 1995 was about miles bigger than 1992. - Will Hunting Nov 28, 12:00
This -- nm - amoxy Nov 28, 11:39

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He wouldn't for me...I'd put both out. I'd be more inclined for Bonds and Raffy to be in becuase their skillsets

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