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In response to "For us...it wasn't a matter of thinking them "ready". it was a matter of when they would be away from us enough" by Jim

To me, this was the deciding factor. It was particularly when they were hitting the bar/bat mitzvah circuit when they would be out late at night

and we would need to coordinate pick ups (and be available if something came up). I think they were each about 12 when we got them.

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