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In response to "I would, one of the reasons i still buy saturns, keep in mind, there is very little you do that 'earns' as much per hour than outwaiting the salesmen " by zeitgeist

thanks. as i said, though, i've been through it 3 times before (plus helped one of my sisters a few times).

i have spent many many hours at dealerships, gone in and snatched my trade-in keys from a manager's desk when they messed around with me, left a dealership when they tried to make me wait unnecessarily, etc etc.

even knowing what's what doesn't make it more palatable for me.


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