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I'm concluding that hsx really doesn't care about the core players, the ones with mega ports because its the small newbie players that tell them more

Posted by zeitgeist Oct 23 '08, 11:18

about the market conditions.

power players play the game, casual players buy stuff that interestes them, have to make more weighty decisions on openers because its a big chunk, if not their entire portfolio, whereas big ports can buy and hold and go against their own tastes

they want to poll ignorant players, not serious ones.

they took away market lab and daily change because it only sqews the game and detracts from the info they are trying to collect

the horrid portfolio page seems to deliberately hinder large port management

Responses:

Eh, I'm giving them a chance to fix the ports... - glory Oct 23, 11:40 2
- I've found that by clicking in the port somewhere you can use the scroll wheel on your mouse without using their scroll bar. -- nm - pmb Oct 23, 11:44 1
  - That doesn't seem to work for me. It will only start scrolling through two stocks at a time... - glory Oct 23, 11:50
You could argue that the success of TT in maintaining a loyal base (even among those who weren't playing much anymore) was the basis for them deciding - pmb Oct 23, 11:40
That may be true. But if it was their intention to increase site socialization aspects... - Mop Oct 23, 11:22 36
- Step 1: Rebuild. ... Step 3: Profit. -- nm - HSX Oct 23, 11:24
- Why is there a need for social networking? That's not the purpose of the game. -- nm - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:23 34
  - The purpose of the game is to make money for the owners of the site. They are apparently trying to enhance that. - ty97 Oct 23, 11:28 22
    - We diehard TTers don't matter anymore because if their site works, they can spare to lose us. -- nm - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:29 21
      - I disagree. They need to maintain an established user base, regardless of who plays the game. - Mop Oct 23, 11:31 20
        
        I don't see how 100 snarky people talking about sex and politics, half of whom don't play HSX, actually benefits them. - ty97 Oct 23, 11:37 16
        
        *ding* -- nm - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:39
        
        Then they shouldn't have had a beta. Just roll it out. -- nm - JaxSean Oct 23, 11:38 8
        
        They basically did. (Cause doesn't look like much if anything changed from the beta version). -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Oct 23, 11:49
        
        Bhe beta was to test the game, not to gauge our support of their new forum model. - ty97 Oct 23, 11:40 6
        
        This, I agree entirely. The beta test was a bug hunt, not a usability test. -- nm - Mop Oct 23, 11:43 2
        
        But it was dumb in this regard, because the main features were so annoying, many of us didn't use it enough to really find bugs. -- nm - TFox Oct 23, 11:48 1
        
        *reads in teeny voice* -- nm - loosilu Oct 23, 11:49
        
        That's true - they already knew TTers wouldn't like the forum format -- nm - CovingtonCat Oct 23, 11:42
        
        your IM was more what I was getting at. - JaxSean Oct 23, 11:41
        
        Nor it seems to have tested the game.. (NM) - Marlowe Oct 23, 11:41
        
        ST registrations are at about 200 right now -- nm - Beryllium Oct 23, 11:38 5
        
        what is ST -- nm - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:38 4
        
        Look around! (NM) - Marlowe Oct 23, 11:39
        
        Look around! (NM) - Marlowe Oct 23, 11:39
        
        SlackerTalk. SlickerTalk. What you're currently reading. :) -- nm - JaxSean Oct 23, 11:39 1
        
        durrr my bad :) -- nm - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:39
        
        I think that over time, we can all leave HSX and others would take our place. All social networking sites have to start from somewhere - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:35 1
        
        But they have to offer something appealing. A "catch" or "hook". I can see HSX being an entertainment-based social network. - Mop Oct 23, 11:38
        
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  - not before, but maybe they think they can transition to a movie oriented market place, buy tickets, books, dvds and even fashions and cools stuff you - zeitgeist Oct 23, 11:26
  - i sort of like the idea of the social part.. a community of movie people.. - colin Oct 23, 11:26 1
    - Staying focused on film worked well for TT! -- nm - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:27
  - Who was it that said the other day that HSX has changed their business model? The game is no longer the purpose. - Mop Oct 23, 11:26 3
    - did they say that, or is that speculation? - colin Oct 23, 11:27 2
      - It's observation. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 23, 11:28 1
        
        ok -- nm - colin Oct 23, 11:29
  - That's what "Web 2.0" means, doesn't it? -- nm - HSX Oct 23, 11:25
  - It's the purpose of the corporate initiative, just like Dunder Mifflin Infinity. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 23, 11:25 2
    - Social networking shouldn't be needed on all sites just because it's "Web 2.0". Trying too hard to be cool... - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:26 1
      - They hired consultants. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 23, 11:28
I'm not sure we can assume that megaport holders are the core, and not a minority -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 11:21
Also, the demographic was skewing older by far, and the studios probably don't give a fuck about old folks :) -- nm - Beryllium Oct 23, 11:20
That's fine. If they don't care about the vets...that's their business. But I can't see any noob coming upon V3 right now and saying that this looks - Will Hunting Oct 23, 11:20 4
- The design is too cluttered and hard to navigate. Although, there *is* a lot of information to absorb. -- nm - hotkiss7348 Oct 23, 11:24
- eh, there's already new players signing up.. already gave one grief over a nonexistent CoC violation.. - colin Oct 23, 11:22
- HSX does have a couple shills saying how great it is though. -- nm - Beaker Oct 23, 11:21 1
  - I wonder when those checks will clear. -- nm - Will Hunting Oct 23, 11:22
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eh, the power players influence the market heavily... people pay attention to what they say - colin Oct 23, 11:19 7
- has notfabio returned? His info always causes a massive swing... -- nm - Beaker Oct 23, 11:21 6
  - i have not seen him :( tracking was great. he should start a blog that just posts tracking. he'd be able to retired on ad revenue! -- nm - colin Oct 23, 11:22 4
    - surprised one of the sites hasn;t approached him to write a daily/weekly article or something -- nm - Beaker Oct 23, 11:23 3
      - is he legally supposed to be posting that tracking though? -- nm - colin Oct 23, 11:25 2
        
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        heh, true, there is that :) -- nm - Beaker Oct 23, 11:26
  - I think his head exploded when they rolled out the new version. -- nm - JaxSean Oct 23, 11:21
Or, appealing to n00bs is the only way to actually grow the game, so they appropriately shifted their focus a bit. -- nm - TFox Oct 23, 11:19

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