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If nominated, Marco Rubio would be the most conservative GOP nominee since Barry Goldwater -- (link)

Posted by znufrii Feb 19 '13, 10:25

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http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/marco-rubio-the-electable-conservative/ (fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com)

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He's not getting nominated. -- nm - David Feb 19, 10:27 62
- This. -- nm - Krusty Feb 19, 10:41
- any particular reason other than the water bottle incident? -- nm - znufrii Feb 19, 10:35 57
  - be...ca...ause....most voters left to leaning right can see that Rubio is just Ryan in spelled in Latino -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 19, 11:08
  - I love that the Left has elevated this to an "incident" now. - Strongbad Feb 19, 10:46 23
    - I mean, exactly! -- nm - Howard Dean Feb 19, 11:07 1
      - Yup. In politics optics matter a lot more than they should. - TWuG Feb 19, 11:11
    - Agreed. "Punchline" about covers it. -- nm - con_carne Feb 19, 11:04
    - [deleted] 1
      - Not surprised. It amuses me. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 19, 11:01
    - Pay no attention to the man behind the water bottle. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Feb 19, 10:57 1
      - So pay no attention to Rubio? - amoxy Feb 19, 11:00
    - I guess "moment" is more accurate. - Spawn Feb 19, 10:54
    - Isn't everything that happens an incident? -- nm - mara Feb 19, 10:51
    - I love how the GOP keeps trotting out the same tired arsed "ideas" that kept them from winning the Presidency in 2008 and 2012. - Diva Feb 19, 10:50 12
      - "Maybe if we tried it in Hispanic." -- nm - Reagen Feb 19, 11:08
      - Yes, but the water bottle thing is more funny. -- nm - con_carne Feb 19, 10:59
      - The same ideas that won them the Presidency in 80, 84, 88, 00 and 04? - Strongbad Feb 19, 10:54 9
        
        Reagan wouldn't win the nomination in this GOP so we can strike 1980 & 1984 from the ideas of this discussion. - Will Hunting Feb 19, 11:18
        
        They've won the popular vote one out of the last six elections. Those ideas are clearly unpopular, at least for POTUS. -- nm - David Feb 19, 11:04 5
        
        I just want to understand what ST's POV here - Strongbad Feb 19, 11:08 4
        
        The ideas have gone *much* further right (it's a race to the right, in fact) while the electorate has stayed largely in the middle. - David Feb 19, 11:12 2
        
        The GOP needs to figure out a way to get throught he primaries without painting themselves into a corner policywise. See Mitt Romney. - con_carne Feb 19, 11:15 1
        
        This describes every presidential election (on both sides of the aisle) for as long as I remember. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 19, 11:17
        
        I would say that they have swung rightward, and the electorate has swung leftward relative to that. - Reagen Feb 19, 11:10
        
        Uhm, the ideas have not changed. That is the point of his post. -- nm - Spawn Feb 19, 10:55 1
        
        exactly. -- nm - Diva Feb 19, 10:57
    - hey, we let you guys have Obamacare... -- nm - znufrii Feb 19, 10:47
  - He's Latino and the people who would have to vote for him in primaries really don't like people of different ethnicities. -- nm - David Feb 19, 10:44 20
    - I think the folks within the GOP primary subset that you are thinking of dislike the stereotypical Latino in their brain, not Rubio. - ty97 Feb 19, 10:46 19
      - If you're seeing that in Texas, I'm glad, but I am not seeing it here. - David Feb 19, 10:51 18
        
        I can't speak to Texas (I have lived in the Illinois for four years), just a gut feel. - ty97 Feb 19, 10:55 4
        
        Really? Are you in Chicago or somewhere else? I somehow missed that. -- nm - David Feb 19, 11:03 3
        
        Yep, I moved to Chicago in summer 2009 -- nm - ty97 Feb 19, 11:13 1
        
        You should watch Kim's brother's band sometime. - David Feb 19, 11:16
        
        ty lives at Target, silly. - Spawn Feb 19, 11:04
        
        becuase he's seen as a cultural (or racial) outsider, or because he's seen as being too tied to the political establishment? - znufrii Feb 19, 10:55 11
        
        He is popular where he is but the rest of the south isn't like Florida (or Texas). - David Feb 19, 11:06 5
        
        I think Rubio would do well in Georgia - Strongbad Feb 19, 11:10 3
        
        He might but it's the same situation I said of Romney. He'll have to get the nomination without carrying most of the south. - David Feb 19, 11:14 2
        
        Newt won GA. I don't remember the others. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 19, 11:15 1
        
        Mitt won NC, VA, AR, TX, FL, of which only VA and FL were competitive (Romney was already considered to be the likely nominee by the end of April) -- nm - znufrii Feb 19, 11:20
        
        gotcha. -- nm - znufrii Feb 19, 11:08
        
        He still is. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 19, 10:55 4
        
        (darling may be a strong word, but he still supports a lot of the same issues of theirs) -- nm - Strongbad Feb 19, 10:56 3
        
        but do *they* still support him? - znufrii Feb 19, 10:59 2
        
        (My opinion) - Strongbad Feb 19, 11:18 1
        
        thanks. -- nm - znufrii Feb 19, 11:26
        
        *ding* -- nm - Spawn Feb 19, 10:51
  - OMG, he got thirsty! He can't be our next President! -- nm - spamlet (iPhone) Feb 19, 10:43 8
    - Fetch happened, spamlet. Deal with it, -- nm - con_carne Feb 19, 10:51
    - Come on, you know how it was perceived. This was his big shot, a chance to show he can hang with the big boys - amoxy Feb 19, 10:46
    - more like he presented himself poorly in a national television appearance - znufrii Feb 19, 10:46 5
      - Look at this guy, conducting himself poorly at the G20 Summit -- (link) - Strongbad Feb 19, 10:48 4
        
        You guys are being pathetic. Just take it on the chin and move on. Was that his big chance to talk to blacks on behalf of Democrats. No. -- nm - con_carne Feb 19, 10:53 2
        
        L3. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 19, 10:55 1
        
        Your boy was just a brown skinned stooge sent in to spout the same conservative BS, with Latin flavor. It was a difficult, thankless task, and - con_carne Feb 19, 10:58
        
        Was he in the middle of a speech? -- nm - amoxy Feb 19, 10:51
  - I like that the aforementioned "most conservative GOP nominee since Barry Goldwater" is far from the best answer for this and we all know it -- nm - con_carne Feb 19, 10:42
  - i have no idea what this means. -- nm - tRuMaN Feb 19, 10:41
- Agreed -- nm - amoxy Feb 19, 10:30
- Is this the bottle water guy? -- nm - Epiphany Feb 19, 10:27 1
  - Ayup! -- nm - timPhone Feb 19, 10:28

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