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Work advice needed: I was hired with 3 months training/probation period. I get a base salary, and once I start my own projects, will be base+commissio

Posted by Hotkiss (aka hotkiss7348) Mar 26 '13, 10:58

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In the last week, I've really helped confirm about 3 big sales. I did most of the grunt work, communicating with the groups, and relating those to my boss. I've been also corresponding with providers, and doing all the paperwork behind the scenes. I've just been keeping my boss updated, and receiving some of his direction, especially since he's been traveling with his family for the last 2 weeks and as such has not been really around.

These have been 3 very high value clients, where the commission would be substantial.

But boss is saying that I'm still in training period, and since I've only been "assisting" him, I will not be receiving the commissions yet. "I want you to gather more experience and this is why I'm having you work with me on these requests," he says.

I feel like this is a copout, because though I am technically still in the training period, I honestly feel I did most of the work on these clients... so much so that, to be honest, I wouldn't have been working so hard and stressing over securing their sales if I had known they weren't my projects. But because it seemed like I was doing all the work (all communications, working with providers, leading documents), I really believed I was working for my own commissions.

Is this just the nature of the beast, or do you think it is within my bounds to argue for at least a portion of the commissions during this interim period?

TIA

Responses:

My ex got really screwed in real estate sales on this kind of thing....frankly, is there another company you can shop yourself too? -- nm - zeitgeist Mar 26, 12:18
The corporate world is all about nickel and diming employees. Get used to it. -- nm - David Mar 26, 11:57
What others have said about training + you didn't go out and find these potential clients yourself, they were assigned to you. -- nm - Roger More Mar 26, 11:33
he trusted you, it would have been his responsibility if you had busted those clients. -- nm - marcel Mar 26, 11:17 1
- This is a good point, I should try to look on the bright side of this experience -- nm - Hotkiss Mar 26, 11:19
"It's your job. I give you money and you give me ideas." "But you never say thank you." **"That's what the money is for!"** -- nm - Max Mar 26, 11:10 3
- tangent... - Andie Mar 26, 11:14 2
  - I don't know if it's still the case now, but when my dad worked for IBM, if you came up with a patentable idea in their employment, they owned it. - Max Mar 26, 11:16 1
    - it depends if it's in your job description. when i was a programmer, my programs were theirs. -- nm - marcel Mar 26, 11:19
You might need to play this card later. Choose your battles and let this one go, until you are out of training. -- nm - con_carne Mar 26, 11:04 2
- It just irks me because one of the accounts was about the equivalent of 5 normal accounts. And I did most of the work on it. -- nm - Hotkiss Mar 26, 11:07 1
  - this will give them confidence to let you handle larger things sooner. it will pay off. -- nm - Andie Mar 26, 11:08
as others have said, wait but be aware of this. - Mel Profit Mar 26, 11:03 11
- I had hesitated to ask first "is this my client" ahead of time since I didn't want to seem "petty" but I do see how I should go into the future -- nm - Hotkiss Mar 26, 11:03 10
  - I wouldn't ask anything client specific. I would wait for a lull between clients or some down time and just ask when commission starts kicking in. - Mel Profit Mar 26, 11:13 5
    - I feel like this has already been answered. "After 3 months, once you start your own projects." - Dr.Vermin Mar 26, 11:19 2
      - absolutely correct, if it was that specific. -- nm - Mel Profit Mar 26, 11:21
      - "Here's the employment agreement, do you agree." "Yes." "Great, welcome aboard." "I'd like to change the agreement now please." - Max Mar 26, 11:20
    - and not, like, today. -- nm - Andie Mar 26, 11:14 1
      - Right. Timing is key. - Mel Profit Mar 26, 11:16
  - how long have you been there? (my advice doesn't change, but it actually does matter). - Andie Mar 26, 11:05 3
    - Just over 2 months into the 3 months -- nm - Hotkiss Mar 26, 11:07 2
      - when you hire the next person, their work's commission comes to you while they're training. nature of the beast. -- nm - amanda Mar 26, 11:07 1
        
        *nods* -- nm - Andie Mar 26, 11:08
No. You're busting your ass to prove you're going to be useful going forward. You'll get paid down the line. -- nm - Will Hunting Mar 26, 11:02 1
- But that's not to say that you shouldn't cultivate all the friends you can now so you can steal them away in 5 years when you strike out on your own. -- nm - Will Hunting Mar 26, 11:18
You're still training. Wait for it. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Mar 26, 11:02 1
- this - OAE -- aka OAE Mar 26, 11:03
you're totally being taken advantage of, but those are the breaks sometimes. - znufrii Mar 26, 11:00 2
- *shrug*, i think if you are in a training period, you do what is asked of you. it's part of training. -- nm - Andie Mar 26, 11:01 1
  - that too. -- nm - znufrii Mar 26, 11:01
do you want to keep the job? if so, shut up. -- nm - amanda Mar 26, 11:00
they weren't going to let you go from doing very little to handling clients 100% yourself. this IS part of your training. - Andie Mar 26, 10:59

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