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In response to "We used to have a Negro Baseball League, and a White League. Now it's Major League Baseball. We now have the first African-American President." by Redmond

The Oscars started in 1928. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed 56 years later.

Posted by ReluctantCynic (aka ReluctantCynic) Feb 12 '09, 21:57

Speaking personally, I'll start bitching about the Image awards after they've been around for more than 56 years.

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You aren't getting my point. Are they needed still? Baseball was pre 1900s, Did we need Negro Leagues to continue? -- nm - Redmond Feb 12, 21:58 20
- I do get your point. I'm just saying that if it took 56 years to start undoing racism in Hollywood ... - ReluctantCynic Feb 12, 22:12 2
  - Er, that didn't make sense. Let me try again. - ReluctantCynic Feb 12, 22:15 1
    - I guess the fact it is looking for wrong for me is a sign progress is being made. I would have accepted it as no big deal 20 years ago. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:18
- Negro Leagues were needed b/c black players weren't allowed in MLB. - TFox Feb 12, 22:00 16
  - Fair enough. We all know there would never be a White Image Awards. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:01 15
    - There shouldn't be, but since we put it there as the ones who created the problem, not really our place to start complaining about it. -- nm - TFox Feb 12, 22:03 14
      - I am not even complaining about it. I am just wishing we could get past the division between the many groups. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:06 13
        
        eventually they will become less meaningful for people, as they recognize more and more the increasing opportunities availabel to them. - znufrii Feb 12, 22:08 8
        
        Well I believe in the all men are created equal. So, because I am white it's not my place to have an opinion and to express it? - Redmond Feb 12, 22:12 7
        
        no one said you couldn't express your opinion. - znufrii Feb 12, 22:15 5
        
        and honestly, you are right, it is divisive, and I hope we get past it some day as well. -- nm - znufrii Feb 12, 22:18 2
        
        I am confident I will see it in my lifetime. I wish MLK could have. -- nm - Redmond Feb 12, 22:19 1
        
        it might take a while, but I think we'll get there. -- nm - znufrii Feb 12, 22:20
        
        I don't see how attacking Nick Fudge solves anything. -- nm - Qale Feb 12, 22:16 1
        
        Oh, see now you've just gone too far! -- nm - Tiny-Voice ReluctantCynic Feb 12, 22:18
        
        I don't think that's what znufrii was saying. - ReluctantCynic Feb 12, 22:13
        
        It's a big big step, but one that surprised a lot of people, which implies to me its going to take some time for all the progress to sink in. -- nm - TFox Feb 12, 22:08 3
        
        Big Step absolutely. I didn't vote for the man because of his color. However, I was very happy with the side effect benefit it would also have. -- nm - Redmond Feb 12, 22:13 2
        
        But not, like, in a week. -- nm - TFox Feb 12, 22:13 1
        
        Let it go, man. - Dr.Vermin Feb 12, 22:20
That subtraction is iffy, but the point about 1964 being not long ago at all is solid. :) - TFox Feb 12, 21:58 9
- MLK believed all men are created equal. Why wouldn't Robert Downy Jr. be eligible for an Image Award? He is a man is he not? -- nm - Redmond Feb 12, 21:59 8
  - I think it is premature to say that we have all as a society caught up to racism to the point that we can start pointing the finger at blacks... - TFox Feb 12, 22:03 7
    - It's my opinion that it hurts more than it helps. You will have people say, "look they are racist so I can be too". -- nm - Redmond Feb 12, 22:04 6
      - I'd say the onus is on us to try to fix the problems we created, not on them to make it easier for us. -- nm - TFox Feb 12, 22:05 5
        
        Yeah, even that statement though understandable is divisive. When you say we, I take it because I have white skin I was part of the problem. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:08 4
        
        But being born in 1969, you surely understand that you can't ask your elders, who experienced things we didn't... - TFox Feb 12, 22:11 3
        
        Nope. My Grandmother used to use the word Colored, and Oriental. Not for bad reasons, but because it was just in her vocabulary. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:15 2
        
        OK, sure, but I think that is a little different than saying, "hey, folks, some of us white folks think this Image Awards is causing problems." - TFox Feb 12, 22:18 1
        
        Get what I am seeing here. I don't have a problem with the Image Awards as an award show. I think it does more harm to the people getting the award. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:24

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