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LIR: Redmond, I have the same cognitive dissonance, actually.

Posted by ReluctantCynic (aka ReluctantCynic) Feb 12 '09, 22:28

That sort of "Good Lord, do we still have to do this?" But then I just think of the numbers of years that segregation was legally and socially accepted, and I figure that I can cut everyone around me a little slack, and give 'em all the benefit of the doubt, until an equal number of years have passed when segregation was not (at least) legally accepted.

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Depending on how you look at it, that is a long long time. - TFox Feb 12, 22:30 10
- Yeah ... there's a point at which the absolute numbers become kind of ludicrous. - ReluctantCynic Feb 12, 22:41 1
  - *handshake* - TFox Feb 12, 22:45
- it certainly didn't end with the Civil Rights Act, you still had the endemic poverty and marginalization - znufrii Feb 12, 22:33 7
  - Right, so you figure it took another 20ish years to get meaningful programs in place to actually help these people... - TFox Feb 12, 22:35 3
    - Snorks! I will say this. I never saw racism until I was in the Army. I saw it from both races. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:39 2
      - My most compelling brush with racism was when I first moved to Nashville. Not at all what I expected. - TFox Feb 12, 22:44 1
        
        Ugh! Yeah, see this is why I look for other perspectives. I just don't see that stuff here. -- nm - Redmond Feb 12, 22:48
  - I think that was the turning point where things started headed in the right direction. It started off slooooowly but in the last 20 years has really - Redmond Feb 12, 22:35 2
    - I totally agree. -- nm - znufrii Feb 12, 22:35 1
      - I just think we lose sight of and patience with how much further we really have to go, as a society -- nm - znufrii Feb 12, 22:38
Yeah, I see that. I do. I just wish things would happen faster. They sort of are I guess. -- nm - Redmond Feb 12, 22:29 8
- it seems kind of obvious from our perspective, sure - znufrii Feb 12, 22:31 7
  - Well, if someone is 27 years old. They can only have been marginalized for 27 years personally. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:33 6
    - well, if you've been marginalized your entire life, I imagine that has an effect. - mafic Feb 12, 22:41 3
      - Oh, I said on the BB. I think the harm it causes is giving white people to have an excuse to exclude people. They do it, so we can do it. - Redmond Feb 12, 22:45 2
        
        I think the people that do that are deliberately misinterpreting the point, and would find a reason whether the image awards existed or not. -- nm - mafic Feb 12, 22:48 1
        
        Probably. -- nm - Redmond Feb 12, 22:50
    - But its only one generation. A culture can only change so much in one generation. -- nm - TFox Feb 12, 22:36
    - and the younger generations will have a progressively less marginalized perspective of society, for sure. - znufrii Feb 12, 22:35

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