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Remember what a disaster the PS3 launch was? I can't shake the feeling that both systems will be like that this time.

Posted by David (aka David) Apr 8 '13, 07:42

The Wii U has been a disaster already but it hasn't really gotten the media attention to detail it.

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The thing I don't understand is what MS would gain by an always on system - oblique Apr 8, 08:11 8
- It's a decision predicated upon control. Microsoft wants complete control of the user experience on their next console. - David Apr 8, 08:14 6
  - Someone should approach Samsung to make a console and convince them to learn from these mistakes -- nm - zork Apr 8, 08:16 5
    - Why? It's not like Samsung is all that open with their phones. - spamlet Apr 8, 08:18 4
      - that was just the first big name I could think of that doesn't have a console. Who should it be then? -- nm - zork Apr 8, 08:19 3
        
        I doubt anyone else gets into the market and even if they did if it would be any different. -- nm - spamlet Apr 8, 08:22
        
        Apple is the one everyone pines for. -- nm - Inigo Apr 8, 08:20 1
        
        My guess is that it would be the flip of a switch for them to enable the Apple TV to run games -- nm - oblique Apr 8, 08:25
- they want the Sim City model of totally FUBAR-ing up the gaming experience -- nm - decline Apr 8, 08:12
The new Xbox has so many horrible rumours floating around right now. Always on, need to install games, no used games, etc. - Shaun Apr 8, 07:50 8
- I do think enhanced Live subscriptions will be bundled with certain systems. - Inigo Apr 8, 07:58 4
  - If it's like PS+ fine, but if it's 'you need to pay us to play online and use Youtube', they can shove it. -- nm - Shaun Apr 8, 07:59 3
    - They're already getting away with charging for it now. Why would Microsoft change that? - Inigo Apr 8, 08:08 1
      - Because I don't think most people will put up with it on a next-gen console. I hope they do try to charge for a worthless (imo) Live subscription. -- nm - Shaun Apr 8, 08:19
    - This. -- nm - Krusty Apr 8, 08:02
- Yup. I reall think those rumors will be true and they're going to lose a lot ot people back to Sony. -- nm - Krusty Apr 8, 07:53 2
  - I wonder if they are testing the waters right now and have fail-safes in place if the public outcry is too enormous. - David Apr 8, 07:54 1
    - It's more than just the always-on. If Sony is still free for multiplayer that will be a big deal for me. I get nothing for the cost of Live. - Krusty Apr 8, 08:00
It's like they looked at the Wii success in 2006-8 and thought...what can we do to not replicate that? - Will Hunting Apr 8, 07:44 11
- I'm not as tweaked about the always on aspect in isolation as some. - David Apr 8, 07:49 7
  - It might be the way of the future, but that future sucks. We almost are all always-on...by choice - Will Hunting Apr 8, 07:53
  - Me neither. It's not like you're dragging your console along on a plane or in a park. - Ender Apr 8, 07:53
  - New Halo is exclusive to new device. Done. -- nm - Microsoft SI Apr 8, 07:51 4
    - That's a given but it's two years away so... -- nm - David Apr 8, 07:52 3
      - That's your reason to upgrade. - spamlet Apr 8, 07:53 2
        
        Hallo isn't enough to sell the system to everyone, or even half of 360s install base. - Inigo Apr 8, 08:03
        
        The problem is that Microsoft gets excoriated this Christmas when there is no Halo to drive hardware sales. -- nm - David Apr 8, 07:56
- I hate when companies go a route like that and say "We *have* to do it to stay competitive." No, you obviously do not. -- nm - Max Apr 8, 07:47 2
  - I'm not even sure why anyone thinks this is competitive... - Will Hunting Apr 8, 07:51 1
    - They're doing it because it's what the game publishing companies want. - Inigo Apr 8, 08:13

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Remember what a disaster the PS3 launch was? I can't shake the feeling that both systems will be like that this time.

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