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In response to "nail bombs. horrible. -- nm" by loosilu

The more information that comes out, the more I lean towards something domestic. -- nm

Posted by Strongbad (aka Rambler14) Apr 16 '13, 09:41

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What qualifies as "domestic" these days? - Mop (190 lbs) Apr 16, 09:54 6
- Well, that depends. As a reference point, Fort Hood was classified as "workplace violence", although the families are suing to have it deemed terror -- (link) - Beryllium Apr 16, 09:59 3
  - it's a criminal act. terrorism is political. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 10:03 2
    - Fort Hood was *definitely* a terrorist act. The Obama admin decided to call work place violence for political reasons. (imo) -- nm - Jovian Apr 16, 10:22 1
      - This. -- nm - Strongbad Apr 16, 11:37
- home-grown Islamist do things to support foreign political groups -- nm - zork Apr 16, 09:57
- not "foreign"? -- nm - groiny Apr 16, 09:54
ML's bit of news about Sec. Kerry this morning was interesting... -- nm - Mel Profit Apr 16, 09:48
this is my feeling, but I guess we'll see. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 09:46
because foreign-terrorists are better organized, have higher body count? not enough shock value here? I hate that we know to think like this. -- nm - amanda Apr 16, 09:44 9
- i just think if this was an outside planned event it would have been bigger. i feel this is more Timothy McVeigh than Al Queda. - Andie Apr 16, 09:50 5
  - depends too on if the other devices that did not go off (if there were more) as well. - groiny Apr 16, 09:52 1
    - according to the updates, there were only 2 devices, no more. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 09:53
  - historically, AQ has gone much bigger. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 09:51 2
    - right. and i wasn't be specific, i was using McVeigh and Al Queda as stand-ins for 'types.' -- nm - Andie Apr 16, 09:51 1
      - *be-ing* -- nm - Andie Apr 16, 09:52
- there are tons of suicide bombers and IEDs overseas that have the same or lower body counts than this -- nm - zork Apr 16, 09:47 2
  - but the ones who come over here tend to be pretty good at it. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 09:48 1
    - Right. It's a lot more expensive to get them here than to blow up something where the already live. -- nm - spamlet Apr 16, 09:49
It's probably bad that I'm hoping this is what it is. Home-grown crazy is a bit less scary than foreign crazy, you know? -- nm - Beryllium Apr 16, 09:44 15
- My mother said this same thing, and I admit I found myself feeling the same day. But I can't understand *why* I/we feel that way. - ty97 Apr 16, 09:45 14
  - home grown is smaller, more finite? you put Kaczinski in jail, it's done. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 09:46 8
    - But is it? I mean, since 9/11, we've had far more terror attacks in the US by US citizens - ty97 Apr 16, 09:48 7
      - I do not include school shootings at all. Terrorism is political. There may be fewer foreign based attacks, but they're big. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 09:49 6
        
        I don't see why 'terrorism' has to be political, but no matter. And there's only been one really big foreign terror attack in the US. -- nm - ty97 Apr 16, 09:53 5
        
        Sirhan Sirhan and Ramzi Yousef might disagree -- nm - Beryllium Apr 16, 09:56
        
        the early 90s WTC bombings were intended to be big -- nm - zork Apr 16, 09:55 1
        
        they were pretty big. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 09:55
        
        it is the definition used by the government. -- nm - loosilu Apr 16, 09:54 1
        
        Thankfully they are not the final arbiter of word definitions -- nm - ty97 Apr 16, 09:58
  - because if it's foreign, it could mean war? -- nm - amanda Apr 16, 09:45 4
    - I don't think a possible war with [insert home country of a terrorist here] is the cause of the fear though. - ty97 Apr 16, 09:47
    - And the foreign ones are generally suicide bombers, as well. That's a whole other level of crazy. - Beryllium Apr 16, 09:47 2
      - when IEDs are mentioned, that would indicate not a suicide bomber, and it seems to me that most military casualties are from IEDs -- nm - zork Apr 16, 09:50 1
        
        when did this become about military casualties? -- nm - Beryllium Apr 16, 09:52
I'm honestly surprised this doesn't happen more often. It seems relatively simplistic to do - oblique Apr 16, 09:43 4
- Because most people aren't crazy. - spamlet Apr 16, 09:47 2
  - also, there's lots of good TV on. -- nm - Reagen Apr 16, 09:56 1
    - heh. and music and pron -- nm - zork Apr 16, 09:58
- I was saying the same thing to someone I was talking to in the office... - Mel Profit Apr 16, 09:44

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