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real answer, Hockey is an expensive sport to play, which takes minorities right out of it. nm -- nm

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Apr 26 '13, 08:10

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I always heard that black folks didn't play hockey because they didn't want to dominate yet another sport! :) -- nm - Jim Apr 26, 08:27 3
- It's cold out there too! -- nm - Shaun Apr 26, 08:35 1
  - And you wouldn't wanna get your gold tooth knocked out. -- nm - Shaun Apr 26, 08:39
- *hits jim in the head with a stick* nm -- nm - Marty McSorley Apr 26, 08:28
There's a huge growth in the sport in the Indo-Canadian community - Reagen Apr 26, 08:15 35
- this, plus there has always been a decent native/Metis representation - zork Apr 26, 08:40
- (and the probably #1 pick this year is black) -- nm - Reagen Apr 26, 08:15 33
  - The son of an NBA player probably didn't have to worry about the price of skates. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 08:49 2
    - No, but what I'm saying is that "minority = poor" is not an immediately valid answer anymore. - Reagen Apr 26, 08:50 1
      - No, that's fair. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 08:53
  - sure, it is an untapped resource for sure. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 26, 08:16 29
    - I just think it's a bit simplistic to say "minorities, therefore no money". It's not really true in Canada. -- nm - Reagen Apr 26, 08:22 28
      - to compare it to basketball, where one guy has to buy a 20 dollar ball, and you can play for months with it. - groiny Apr 26, 08:24 21
        
        sure. but football isn't really cheap to play, either, and that hasn't stopped minority participation...nm - x Apr 26, 08:33 11
        
        because schools supply the gear needed, unless you are playing in a pee-wee league -- nm - zork Apr 26, 08:42
        
        It's cheap to play with friends and get going. A football costs $20 and you can play two hand touch. Hockey sticks aren't cheap and they break. - Krusty Apr 26, 08:36 8
        
        i dunno. i don't disagree with the gist of smost of this argument, but i agree with R that it's awful simplistic.... - x Apr 26, 08:40 4
        
        I don't think it's just cost . The lack of role models is an issue. The lack of outreach is an issue. Where is the NHL when it comes to setting things - Krusty Apr 26, 08:44 1
        
        the NHL has them as well. -- nm - mafic Apr 26, 08:49
        
        I think it's more realistic that minorities just don't like hockey as much as other sports. -- nm - Shaun Apr 26, 08:43 1
        
        more like a lot of minority parents don't appreciate the sport and don't see the value in spending that much on it. -- nm - zork Apr 26, 08:45
        
        Roller street hockey is for fancy boys. -- nm - Shaun Apr 26, 08:39
        
        two hand touch is for girls -- nm - Beaker Apr 26, 08:37 1
        
        Or for people that play on concrete. :-) -- nm - Krusty Apr 26, 08:38
        
        sure it is, you can play tackle football without a ton of gear. - groiny Apr 26, 08:34
        
        Also, they build courts all over the place. You don't need more than one friend to play basketball. You can't play hockey with two guys. - Krusty Apr 26, 08:30 7
        
        you can even look at local high schools and realize how many do not have a hockey team. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 26, 08:32 6
        
        hockey's not really a school sport in canada at all. there are way more high schools with football or soccer teams than hockey. -- nm - mafic Apr 26, 08:46 3
        
        Yeah, I can't think of a single HS hockey team that I've seen here. - Reagen Apr 26, 08:48 2
        
        most of the ones I can think of are the actual hockey schools (like the SK notre dame). -- nm - mafic Apr 26, 08:52
        
        lots in Toronto, but a lot of the players already play in the MTHL -- nm - zork Apr 26, 08:50
        
        Even the schools that have teams...most are club teams, not so much sponsored by the school. -- nm - Jim Apr 26, 08:44
        
        There's that too. One school had hockey when I was in H.S. They had to travel really far to play games. - Krusty Apr 26, 08:34
        
        Hockey is definitely one of the more expensive sports to simply start playing. Skates alone (new) are most likely $100+. -- nm - Shaun Apr 26, 08:26
      - ok, in the US then. - groiny Apr 26, 08:23 5
        
        Don't get me wrong, it's still an expensive sport. Just one of the circles on the Venn diagram has shifted some. -- nm - Reagen Apr 26, 08:26 4
        
        I recall an old debate about african americans and weak ankles? - groiny Apr 26, 08:27 3
        
        *waving frantically* -- nm - Jimmy the Greek Apr 26, 08:37
        
        that's what skates are for. -- nm - loosilu Apr 26, 08:36
        
        No recollection. But I'm canadian, and I can't skate for shit. - Beryllium Apr 26, 08:29
True, plus its not a game you can play just anywhere. - Stephen Apr 26, 08:15 14
- We have a few here and one is in Coney Island which is definitely a low income area. I think the cost of the equipment, lack of access to rinks and - Krusty Apr 26, 08:27 8
  - Coney Island has a big Eastern European population. -- nm - loosilu Apr 26, 08:30 3
    - Really? - Krusty Apr 26, 08:31 2
      - that's what I'm saying, it's lower income but STILL WHITE. -- nm - loosilu Apr 26, 08:34 1
        
        True. They're trying to get the young black kids to play but everyone they know plays basketball. I guess it goes back to Roger More - Krusty Apr 26, 08:37
  - I enjoyed playing Hockey more than anything else other than Baseball. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 26, 08:29 3
    - I liked playing roller hockey but I liked the other major sports much more. I'd much rather play basketball than hocket. -- nm - Krusty Apr 26, 08:32 2
      - well, I am horrible at basketball, and I am above average at hockey. - groiny Apr 26, 08:33 1
        
        Yes, it does. :-) -- nm - Krusty Apr 26, 08:45
- ROAD HOCKEY PRETTY MUCH CAN BE THOUGH -- nm - Beaker Apr 26, 08:17 3
  - *giggle* (Why do random all-caps make me LOL?) -- nm - mara Apr 26, 08:49
  - sfcl -- nm - Beaker Apr 26, 08:18 1
    - there have been a lot of roller hockey leagues popping up though. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 26, 08:18
- when I played, it was at like midnight game times at a local ice rink. - groiny Apr 26, 08:17
You'd think there'd be more chinese hockey players, then -- nm - Beryllium Apr 26, 08:11 7
- groiny's partly right, but I think role models (or the lack of) have a lot to do with it too. -- nm - Roger More Apr 26, 08:13
- well, they are kinda small. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 26, 08:12
- heh, here's the first one -- (link) - Beryllium Apr 26, 08:12 4
  - when I dabbled into Ice Hockey, I spend about 2 grand buying the equipment. - groiny Apr 26, 08:13 3
    - depends how high-end you go, but a full kit would probably be around $400-500 at the low end. -- nm - mafic Apr 26, 08:19
    - Same thing with lacrosse. It's expensive for all the gear. sucked having to save up money for a new stuff -- nm - CQ Apr 26, 08:15 1
      - The next door neighbor's kids both play lacrosse, their mom is constantly complaining about the costs. -- nm - Stephen Apr 26, 08:16

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