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In response to "Okay, ignoring that last aspect because it muddies the waters, I still don't know what you do in this case." by Name Withheld By Request

Without having seen the evidence, I have no idea whether or not they can be convicted of something. What I do feel confident of is that these are kids

Posted by Reagen Apr 26 '13, 09:38

who have done *something* against common morals (which doesn't go 1:1 with legality) and I have no problem judging them based on that aspect.

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It sounds like there isn't any evidence to see. Where does your confidence come from? - Dr.Vermin Apr 26, 09:41 11
- they themselves seem to be saying that *something* happened with the drunk girl, and they then slut-shamed her into suicide. - Reagen Apr 26, 09:44 4
  - But were the boys not also *drunk 15-year-olds*? - Dr.Vermin Apr 26, 09:50
  - To be fair, your "these are not the actions of good people" would have likely convicted half my high school of being immoral. - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 09:49 2
    - I have high standards, yes. -- nm - Reagen Apr 26, 09:50 1
      - I really like this post - wish more parents did - maybe their kids would too? -- nm - JenBro Apr 26, 12:30
- i can agree that what they did was immoral. - Andie Apr 26, 09:43 5
  - It's not the lack of "No" that's at issue. If we believe the police, the witness suggests she was willing and encouraging. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 09:45 4
    - right, which is why we are differentiating between Immoral and Illegal. - Andie Apr 26, 09:46 2
      - That somewhat presupposes that the boys were sober enough to make the rational choice as well. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 09:50 1
        
        we don't excuse other crimes because you were drunk at the time. -- nm - Reagen Apr 26, 09:53
    - one can regret getting so drunk as to put oneself in such a position without making your actions consensual. -- nm - Reagen Apr 26, 09:46

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Without having seen the evidence, I have no idea whether or not they can be convicted of something. What I do feel confident of is that these are kids

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