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In response to "NWBR, the thing with guys is that the closer you get to being too drunk to make that decision, the closer you are to not being able to perform -- nm" by zork

i am actually surprised that the guys somewhat justifying the boys actions all have daughters. Let's talk about this in 10 years. -- nm

Posted by Andie Apr 26 '13, 10:01

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I am not justifying them in the least. That's my point. This case sickens me because I don't think it's right the girl got it so bad after that... - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 10:10 19
- assigned her culpability is one step away from excusing it away. - Reagen Apr 26, 10:16 13
  - You can choose to have sex though. If given multiple options to leave and you don't, at what point do... - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 10:20 12
    - I certainly hope that in 10 years I'm a better parent than to embrace this double standard. - Dr.Vermin Apr 26, 10:23 10
      - what do you think that message is, exactly? - Andie Apr 26, 10:29 3
        
        Your first sentence is indeed implied. - Dr.Vermin Apr 26, 10:36 2
        
        yeah, i think i need to disengage here. -- nm - Andie Apr 26, 10:37 1
        
        (also - it can work both ways, it's just MUCH rarer. see link) -- (link) - Andie Apr 26, 10:38
      - bull. The standard is you shouldn't take advantage of drunk people regardless of their gender. - Reagen Apr 26, 10:28 5
        
        if someone takes money out of someone's wallet while they are drunk, it's still theft - zork Apr 26, 10:31 3
        
        she was drunk! and she left her purse laying there, open! it was an invitation to take her money. -- nm - Andie Apr 26, 10:32 2
        
        Wouldn't a better analogy be, "She said I could have the $20." -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 10:33
        
        And her purse was really skimpy and sexy. It was just asking for it. -- nm - mara Apr 26, 10:33
        
        I'm with you on this. (Though I think biology has a big role to play there in that alcohol usually hits females harder.) -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 10:29
    - not at that age and that level of intoxication, we've decided. -- nm - Reagen Apr 26, 10:21
- ah, that's clearer. -- nm - Andie Apr 26, 10:12 4
  - I don't believe the boys are innocent. I'm just not convinced their immoral monsters.* - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 10:15 3
    - what the did individually may not be entirely monstrous but their actions as a group make me feel that it was -- nm - zork Apr 26, 10:18 2
      - Group: The boys or the larger group at school afterward? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 26, 10:20 1
        
        I was thinking the boys but both really. If they hadn't lined up to have sex with her, the later stuff wouldn't have happened -- nm - zork Apr 26, 10:22
I also wonder whether we heard about this happening in another country, if we would be convicting the guys in absentia -- nm - zork Apr 26, 10:06

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