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Vatican walking back Pope Francis's statement about Atheists being saved -- (link)

Posted by amoxy (aka amoxy) May 28 '13, 13:13

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"All salvation comes from Christ, the Head, through the Church which is his body," Rosica wrote. "Hence they cannot be saved who, knowing the Church as founded by Christ and necessary for salvation, would refuse to enter her or remain in her." (www.huffingtonpost.com)

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I wonder if they realize that atheist don't believe in Heaven so it's moot to them. -- nm - ty97 May 28, 13:29 2
- Ding. - Krusty May 28, 13:40
- well not beliving in Heaven is not the same as not wanting to go to heaven - DaneDukeNuuk May 28, 13:39
I've seen some translations that saying that atheists are saved is mistranslating what he actually said. - spamlet May 28, 13:20 1
- proved my point! -- nm - zork May 28, 13:20
He didn't say anything about being saved, did he? He said atheists could do good works. -- (link) - mara May 28, 13:19 14
- he said the Lord has redeemed everyone, even athiests: - b. May 28, 13:22 11
  - That is true, but you still have to believe. - spamlet May 28, 13:23 10
    - The church does acknowledge "baptism of fire" and "baptism of desire" for non Catholics. I am busy running tests so I can't - loosilu May 28, 13:55
    - i don't think you even have to want to - charlie May 28, 13:29 6
      - To Catholics, you have to have all seven sacraments (generally). - spamlet May 28, 13:31 5
        
        well, #7 is Holy Orders, so no. :) -- nm - loosilu May 28, 13:54 2
        
        Okay, 6 out of the 7. My Catholicism is a little rusty. -- nm - spamlet May 28, 13:55 1
        
        Marriage and anointing of the sick aren't required either. -- nm - loosilu May 28, 13:56
        
        that's why the church is backtracking. -- nm - b. May 28, 13:34 1
        
        LOL "If I was Pope Francis, I'd be employing a food tester right about now. " -- (link) - DaneDukeNuuk May 28, 13:37
    - But I don�t believe, Father, I am an atheist!� But do good: we will meet one another there. -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk May 28, 13:26
    - I don't see that read in what he said at all. he was specifically talking about doing good. -- nm - b. May 28, 13:26
- I think the line about "us meeting there" is being taken incorrectly. - spamlet May 28, 13:21
- The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! �Father, the atheists?� Even the atheis -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk May 28, 13:21
LOL so the pope is stupid and the church knows it all....i foresee a short papalcy -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk May 28, 13:18
Isn't the Pope infallible? Are they saying he was wrong? -- nm - Krusty May 28, 13:16 3
- only when he specifically says he's infallible and on certain specific elements of doctrine. -- nm - Reagen May 28, 13:26 1
  - "There. POTATOE. 37 points." -- nm - Max May 28, 13:29
- obviously the are clarifying something perfect that he said but we are incapable of understanding properly. -- nm - zork May 28, 13:17
whoops, guess i shouldn't have gone binge sinning -- nm - charlie May 28, 13:14

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