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In response to "he said the Lord has redeemed everyone, even athiests:" by b.

That is true, but you still have to believe.

Posted by spamlet May 28 '13, 13:23

I actually think this is more in reference to specific Biblical texts where the Jews and Gentiles were fighting over who was saved by Jesus. The text is pretty clear that everyone is saved, if they want to be.

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The church does acknowledge "baptism of fire" and "baptism of desire" for non Catholics. I am busy running tests so I can't - loosilu May 28, 13:55
i don't think you even have to want to - charlie May 28, 13:29 6
- To Catholics, you have to have all seven sacraments (generally). - spamlet May 28, 13:31 5
  - well, #7 is Holy Orders, so no. :) -- nm - loosilu May 28, 13:54 2
    - Okay, 6 out of the 7. My Catholicism is a little rusty. -- nm - spamlet May 28, 13:55 1
      - Marriage and anointing of the sick aren't required either. -- nm - loosilu May 28, 13:56
  - that's why the church is backtracking. -- nm - b. May 28, 13:34 1
    - LOL "If I was Pope Francis, I'd be employing a food tester right about now. " -- (link) - DaneDukeNuuk May 28, 13:37
But I don�t believe, Father, I am an atheist!� But do good: we will meet one another there. -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk May 28, 13:26
I don't see that read in what he said at all. he was specifically talking about doing good. -- nm - b. May 28, 13:26

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