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Very uncool. Somebody from ST contacted one of my tenants and called me a...

Posted by ceregon Jun 17 '13, 09:24

"perv" (what they actually said was way worse).

One of my tenants was so into the concept of a house for fighters, he created a website to bring in more tenants. I wasn�t going to share the website on ST, but people wanted me to, so I did. Somebody used the phone number he listed on the page and contacted him. This really freaked him out. He took apart all the vents and light fixtures looking for cameras, and when the other tenants told him he was nuts to be so paranoid, he figured they were in on it. This led to the other tenants getting sick of his paranoid behavior, so they wanted him out. He couldn�t afford another place so he is now living under a tarp at Lake Mead. It�s hard to keep a job as a club promoter when you are homeless, so he�s unemployed now. He also can�t get his meds for being bi-polar, so he�s much more unstable now.

I met with him last week on my trip and finally figured out where the �warning� came from. I wanted to believe that nobody from ST would do something like that, but based on some responses from certain people over the years, I guess I shouldn�t be surprised. If you were trying to help him, you failed. He lost the only person who was looking out for him. If you were trying to hurt me, you failed. I had a new tenant moved in the day after he moved out. It�s really sad. He was a good kid, and he�s already losing a lot of his humanity. It�s going to be very hard for him to recover from this. I brought him some canned food and a camping stove last week, but he didn�t want to accept anything from me.

Unlike some people on ST, I don�t post hateful or hurtful remarks and I try to be helpful. I have gotten STers into popular clubs in Vegas, played tour guide when they visited there or Cali, and talked some of you through the ins and outs of buying a rental property. ST only works if people respect people�s privacy and dignity. Be careful about ranting about your boss, coworker or significant other, because somebody from ST might contact them.

I enjoyed the pop culture tips and sounding board aspects of ST, but I cannot get past this betrayal. So this is goodbye.

Responses:

It's a pretty shitty STer who would do this and I hope they get a fatal case of crotch rot. -- nm - TWuG Jun 17, 10:04 4
- dude - groiny Jun 17, 10:05 3
  - that was a fast curse TWuG.... -- nm - Mel Profit Jun 17, 10:07 2
    - heh -- nm - Beaker Jun 17, 10:20
    - he only lives a few hours away! nm -- nm - groiny Jun 17, 10:09
most importantly, I think we all wish for the former tenant to be able to pick himself up and get back on track. can we do a collection for him? -- nm - zork Jun 17, 09:59
I fully understand your feelings. You never know what some net denizens might do, maybe even with good intentions. - GregW Jun 17, 09:59
this is terrible. :( -- nm - Jovian Jun 17, 09:57
just logged in for lunch here and am so sad to read this - and I really hope you don't go - I would miss you very much. - JenBro Jun 17, 09:56
That's despicable. I'm sorry to hear about this. - Dr.Vermin Jun 17, 09:56
this is awful. please reconsider leaving us -- nm - peglegpete Jun 17, 09:56
Goddam WTF? -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk Jun 17, 09:46
awful. - decline Jun 17, 09:44 37
- a very long shot, yes. - znufrii Jun 17, 09:57
- I think it's unlikely. They don't know anything about the ceregon nick. - ceregon Jun 17, 09:53 23
  - so whoever called, did not identify themselves at all? nm -- nm - groiny Jun 17, 09:54 22
    - he won't tell me, not even the gender -- nm - ceregon Jun 17, 09:56 21
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      - while it sucks, I am really, really, skeptical of his story. - groiny Jun 17, 09:58 6
        
        There's no reason for him to make it up - ceregon Jun 17, 10:02 5
        
        i fully understand why you are so upset, of course you are, but i can't see why ST is *necessarily* the source. unless i missed something. - Andie Jun 17, 10:07
        
        people with mental issues very often don't do the logical thing and trying to rationalise it like that doesn't work. -- nm - zork Jun 17, 10:07
        
        There's no reason to flip the frig out either but he's done so in large part due to his mental state. - Will Hunting Jun 17, 10:04
        
        to be blunt, it is his own fault that he is living under a tarp. - groiny Jun 17, 10:04 1
        
        agreed. sometimes people just don't want help... - Mel Profit Jun 17, 10:07
      - sure. -- nm - Diva Jun 17, 09:56 12
        
        yep. nm - Jim Jun 17, 09:59 11
        
        Of course you are, you called and Diva wrote the script for you to follow. -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 17, 09:59 10
        
        I never use a script...I'm all imrpov! ;) -- nm - Jim Jun 17, 10:01 9
        
        That also might explain the hesitancy to pick a gender based off the voice. ;) - Will Hunting Jun 17, 10:02 6
        
        Word. nm - Jim Jun 17, 10:06
        
        *points at amoxy accusingly with a dramatic flourish* It was YOU! *thundering with umbrage* -- nm - Mel Profit Jun 17, 10:04 4
        
        Wait, how did I get dragged into this? -- nm - amoxy Jun 17, 10:05 3
        
        If it was by Mel, we can assume, very slowly with lots of grunting and hair pulling. -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 17, 10:06 1
        
        chawl. -- nm - Diva Jun 17, 10:07
        
        too much smog inhilation. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 17, 10:06
        
        jim is freestylin' this stuff... - Diva Jun 17, 10:02
        
        apparently, you never use rear view mirrors either. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 17, 10:02
- I really hope that this is the case. ceregon is one of the nicer STers I know. His stories of charity are legendary. - Mop (190 lbs) Jun 17, 09:52 1
  - this -- nm - Beaker Jun 17, 10:21
- y'all are smart. I had never even thought about this. -- nm - ty97 Jun 17, 09:50
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  - Yeah, there's a fair bit of mentally unbalanced in his actions all the way through. - Will Hunting Jun 17, 09:49
- I like the way you think. (And yes, this is awful and I have a hard time imagining that anyone here would be so ... passively vindictive.) -- nm - Beryllium Jun 17, 09:46 1
  - I guess passively is the wrong word. Indirectly. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 17, 09:46
- Googling his own web site may have turned up the link on ST. -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jun 17, 09:46 4
  - Or seeing a website referral report. -- nm - mara Jun 17, 09:47
  - Even just google analytics (or any analytics engine) would have picked up the incoming hit referers - Beryllium Jun 17, 09:47 2
    - True. That actually seems more likely. I use it to find out where the traffic at The Trades comes from. -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jun 17, 09:48 1
      - This is why I always visit porn sites before going to The Trades. -- nm - Qale Jun 17, 09:49
WTF?! This makes me sick to me stomach. Any way we can find out who did this? - Mop (190 lbs) Jun 17, 09:43 14
- If they didn't do something to mask their IP, ceregon could look at the header of the email. - Inigo Jun 17, 09:47 8
  - I don't think there was an email, was there? -- nm - mara Jun 17, 09:48 7
    - Oh, duh. They called him? Easier to trace then. -- nm - Inigo Jun 17, 09:50
    - Or phone #..... -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 17, 09:49 5
      - Right. If there was a phone call (especially a cell phone), then it got logged and probably showed up in the guy's phone bill. -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jun 17, 09:51 4
        
        a guy living under a tarp isn't lugging around cell phone bills -- nm - zork Jun 17, 09:53 3
        
        He wasn't living under a tarp at the time. - Will Hunting Jun 17, 09:53
        
        No, but why didn't the phone number show up in the cellphone? :) -- nm - Beryllium Jun 17, 09:53 1
        
        this obviously happened a while ago now. probably not still in there and he's not about to let ceregon root through his phone in any case. -- nm - zork Jun 17, 09:56
- hopefully the person will admit it. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 17, 09:44 4
  - Chances of that happening ----- 0%. -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 17, 09:45
  - lmao, not a chance in hell someone would own up to it. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 17, 09:44 2
    - if it really happened. -- nm - Diva Jun 17, 09:48 1
      - well, yes, of course. - groiny Jun 17, 09:49
That's awful. -- nm - Inigo Jun 17, 09:41
whoa -- nm - ty97 Jun 17, 09:40
damn, jenbro - charlie Jun 17, 09:40
I just don't even know what to say. I can't comprehend how anyone here would feel the need to do something like that to you. - Kim Pine Jun 17, 09:40
wtf. something like this happened to me once. it sucks. -- nm - loosilu Jun 17, 09:40
Wonderful. This sucks. Really sorry to hear this -- nm - prayformojo Jun 17, 09:37
dude.. - colin Jun 17, 09:37 1
- I agree with Colin. Don't go. I enjoyed the one time we met (Planet of the Apes in SJ), hate to see people leave over this -- nm - amoxy Jun 17, 09:38
This is horrible. You and I have had our differences, but nobody deserves this. -- nm - amanda Jun 17, 09:35
Yikes, I'm very sorry to hear that man. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 17, 09:35
Wow. :( -- nm - Strongbad Jun 17, 09:33
Sorry to hear that Man. That sucks that somebody would do that -- nm - amoxy Jun 17, 09:32
well, that sucks. - znufrii Jun 17, 09:32
That's horrible and I wish I knew something to say that conclusion is a mistake. This feels like a stab in the heart. -- nm - zork Jun 17, 09:32 1
- and I truly wish that the last line is not true - zork Jun 17, 09:35
Just wondering...how do you know it's an ST person that called him? He listed his phone number on the interwebs? -- nm - Jim Jun 17, 09:31
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- Lord knows I've had my share of beefs with several people on the ST...but I honestly don't think ANY one here would do that. nm - Jim Jun 17, 09:36 12
  - someone did something to me on TT. I never found out who. but I believe it can happen. -- nm - loosilu Jun 17, 09:42
  - oh i'm sure there's at least one person that petty and small -- nm - charlie Jun 17, 09:39 8
    - I find this very interesting. Like I said...even the people here that I outright dislike...I wouldn't peg them for this. -- nm - Jim Jun 17, 09:40 7
      - There have been some truly deplorable statements made to people here. It wouldn't take much escalation to see the next step being taken. -- nm - David Jun 17, 09:48
      - This has always been my thought. You keep your personal beefs personal. -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jun 17, 09:45
      - right, I have had my fights over the years with several people on TT / ST, and I would never think - groiny Jun 17, 09:42 4
        
        Yeah, it would take someone posting that they enjoy killing babies or something to illicit anything beyond the realm of ST. -- nm - Spawn Jun 17, 09:45 3
        
        Remember the person who basically accused Jim of child abuse? We all would have had trouble keeping our composure with her. -- nm - David Jun 17, 09:51 2
        
        How hard is it to check your mirror!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!??!?!/!?!!?!?!?? !!?/! -- nm - leeya Jun 17, 09:52
        
        well, that was sure out there, and easy for everyone to see the disfunction. - groiny Jun 17, 09:52
  - maybe someone who was banhammered trying to get revenge? -- nm - zork Jun 17, 09:37 1
    - that is a longshot at best. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 17, 09:38
whoa. -- nm - Mel Profit Jun 17, 09:30
Considering that ST posts are basically open to the entire internet, you're absolutely sure the caller was an ST regular? -- nm - Max Jun 17, 09:29 7
- It's somebody who has been reading ST for a while - ceregon Jun 17, 09:36 3
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    - Yep. -- nm - ceregon Jun 17, 10:22
  - reading doesn't have to be participating - zork Jun 17, 09:41
- that's true but seems like a longshot. -- nm - Reagen Jun 17, 09:31
- google sucks -- nm - charlie Jun 17, 09:30
- yeah, I find that kind of hard to believe, myself. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 17, 09:30
I recall when someone was going to contact my HR depatrment about something I said once..... - groiny Jun 17, 09:29 1
- 100% this. -- nm - Spawn Jun 17, 09:37
I swear you absolutely never know what you are going to read when you come here. -- nm - Volnelk Jun 17, 09:28
Holy crap! -- nm - Krusty Jun 17, 09:28
we can never have nice things -- nm - charlie Jun 17, 09:27
This is awful. Betrayal sucks and none of us is immune. . . - OAE -- Old Antarctic Explorer Jun 17, 09:27
I don't know much about what you're talking about, but there will always be villians. Should you reject the heroes because of them? -- nm - Qale Jun 17, 09:26
Good lord. -- nm - David Jun 17, 09:26

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