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Voter ID advocates running full speed ahead after key provision of Voting Rights Act gutted yesterday... -- (link)

Posted by Don Homer (aka DonHomer) Jun 26 '13, 10:56

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But Voter ID is all about preventing voter fraud, not preventing minorities from voting! -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jun 26, 11:31
Ah yes, there's "gutted" again - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:03 35
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  - He requires a substantial conversation about this here or else he's wasting his time. - Diva Jun 26, 11:18 7
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      - exactly. -- nm - Diva Jun 26, 11:24 5
        
        To be fair, you whatever'd him before that. -- nm - Inigo Jun 26, 11:25 4
        
        True. I sensed a disingenuousness when I did that. I still do. -- nm - Diva Jun 26, 11:29 3
        
        If I'm coming across as disingenuous, then I need to soften my approach. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:37 2
        
        I admit this is a touchy subject for me. I have relatives who were fire-hosed in the streets fighting for voting rights and protection under - Diva Jun 26, 11:40 1
        
        I'm coming at this from an educational POV - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:44
- Well, when you basically render it non-functioning, it's an apt word. - Will Hunting Jun 26, 11:08 25
  - Due to the incompetence of Congress? - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:11 24
    - there is (or wasn't until yesterday) no "incompetent legislature" standard for consitutionality -- nm - charlie Jun 26, 11:14 18
      - Correct me if I'm wrong - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:20 17
        
        They could --- they won't. The Court killed it knowing that the US Govt is non-functioning. - Will Hunting Jun 26, 11:26
        
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        Please explain this to me. - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:25 12
        
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        I want to understand - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:30 10
        
        Without the formula, it's non-functioning. Congress is non-functioning. - Will Hunting Jun 26, 11:32 6
        
        clear and succinct. and so upsetting. at least to me. -- nm - Diva Jun 26, 11:37
        
        Maybe it's just word semantics? - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:35 2
        
        you can think of it in terms of a "gut renovation" - znufrii Jun 26, 11:39
        
        gutted means something's parts have been removed/destroyed/made useless. there's no there there. - b. Jun 26, 11:39
        
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        That's what I'm trying to understand - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:39
        
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        one question I have which might be better suited to tomorrow's discussion is how much of the VRA hinges on the preclearance function? - znufrii Jun 26, 11:42 1
        
        (I think I saw this question raised by someone else as well yesterday, but don't recall seeing an answer, apologies if I'm treading old ground) -- nm - znufrii Jun 26, 11:43
        
        (1) that assumes a conclusion that the formula is in fact broken, and (2) even assuming that it is, that's a call for the legislature to make -- nm - charlie Jun 26, 11:24
        
        They could fix it but they won't. -- nm - Krusty Jun 26, 11:21
    - I love pinball as much as the next guy, but have you capitulated on 'gutted' or are you just changing arguments? -- nm - ty97 Jun 26, 11:13 4
      - They dismissed a formula based on data 50 years ago. - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:18 3
        
        so they substituted their judgment for the legislature's? -- nm - charlie Jun 26, 11:21 2
        
        Or, they did their job? -- nm - Strongbad Jun 26, 11:23 1
        
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this could turn out to be like Agents Johnson ordering DWP to cut off the power to Nakatomi Plaza - charlie Jun 26, 10:59 3
- That's my hope. That the affected groups, where turnout is generally lower decide to exercise their votes in defiance -- nm - TWuG Jun 26, 11:01
- Are you crazy?? It's Christmas Eve! -- nm - Don Homer Jun 26, 11:00 1
  - "Authorization? How about the United States f#&$ing government?" -- nm - prayformojo Jun 26, 11:07

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