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In response to "Sorry, should have been clear. Nomination. My gut tells me that the party blinks again." by Name Withheld By Request

there is no Obama caliber candidate that i know of who would take the nomination from her. and i assume she's learned from the mistakes of 2008

Posted by charlie (aka chris) Jul 2 '13, 10:27

she won't leave anything to chance this time, if she runs

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Your hedge at the end is also a factor to me. I'm not 100% sure she doesn't gear up and then suddenly pull the cord at the end of the waiting period. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jul 2, 10:28 15
- Well there are her health concerns and that of her hubby - eag Jul 2, 10:32 1
  - people love Bubba now more than ever. he's her biggest campaign trail asset -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 10:33
- unless there is an intervening health issue between now and then, i can't imagine her not running - charlie Jul 2, 10:31 12
  - Fair enough. But my gut and head tell me people don't like juggernauts in politics. The ones who have delivered big rarely looked big at the start. - Name Withheld By Request Jul 2, 10:33 11
    - Your logic is exactly why I liked Obama in 2012 but I have made my peace with the fact that the nom is Clinton's if she wants it in 2016. -- nm - David Jul 2, 10:45 2
      - Obama's biggest issue in 2007/08 wasn't that he wasn't a rock star in his own right; it was that he jumped the line - Will Hunting Jul 2, 11:06 1
        
        Still, that's the hindsight perspective. This places leans hard left yet we still didn't have many people who agreed that Obama was even a threat... - David Jul 2, 11:16
    - She will be 69 thats probably the biggest factor -- nm - eag Jul 2, 10:35 7
      - that doesn't even sound old any more. -- nm - loosilu Jul 2, 10:38
      - a year younger than Reagan when he took office -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 10:37 5
        
        But well over the oldest Democrat to get the nomination in the last sixty years (which from memory I believe was Kerry at 59). - Name Withheld By Request Jul 2, 10:49 2
        
        i think the history of electing the first woman president trumps any of that - charlie Jul 2, 10:53 1
        
        If the GOP continues their anti-woman crusade, she's going to get a LOT of the female vote - TWuG Jul 2, 11:19
        
        was he oldest? -- nm - amanda Jul 2, 10:39 1
        
        wiki sez yes -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 10:43

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