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Bills passed by Congress, 1947 to 2012... -- (link)

Posted by Don Homer (aka DonHomer) Jul 2 '13, 17:33

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I don't think that is such a bad thing. Less is more sometimes. - Bacon Jul 2, 17:37 40
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  - There's bad pork, and good pork. -- nm - the liioulu with Jul 2, 18:00 1
    - Like boneless pork chops generally bad, bacon good. -- nm - Don Homer Jul 2, 18:01
- even at worst in 2005, before earmark reform, they only cost $47 billion total -- (link) - charlie Jul 2, 17:44 18
  - I would like it to be zero. If it has to be sneaked into a bill then that means they know it wouldn't pass. - Bacon Jul 2, 17:47 16
    - the spending goes back into the economy. it's not like that money evaporates into thin air -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 17:48 15
      - The governement is the biggest source of income for the county. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:51
      - I concede this point, but I would rather have the earmarks stand on their own merits and not be slipped in secretly -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 17:50 13
        
        Hating earmarks generally is fine, but they are a symptom of how our government works -- nm - con_carne Jul 2, 18:00 12
        
        removing them has actually contributed to gridlock b/c the party leaders don't have any grease to turn the wheels anymore -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 18:05 7
        
        Only in Congress could bribes be considered merely "greasing the wheels." - Stephen Jul 2, 18:14 5
        
        Clearly earmarks can be taken too far, but they aren't evil by their sheer nature in a system that depends on negotiation -- nm - ty97 Jul 2, 18:18
        
        not sure how a government project = "bribe" but okay -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 18:17 2
        
        "greasing the wheels" is another way to say bribe. -- nm - the liioulu with Jul 2, 18:20 1
        
        More accurately, I think, a bribe is one type of greasing the wheels. -- nm - mara Jul 2, 18:34
        
        They aren't bribes if they're written in to a law. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 18:17
        
        Damn this is the second thing you have posted that really makes sense. - Bacon Jul 2, 18:08
        
        We will be Greece someday if something doesn't change -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 18:05 3
        
        no we won't. ever. -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 18:05 2
        
        OPA! :) -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 18:06 1
        
        no really, we won't -- (link) - charlie Jul 2, 18:14
  - And some of those earmarks haven't even been spent. Though the money is in limbo waiting. -- nm - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:47
- It's obstruction at its finest. Attempt to suffocate his legacy by letting nothing through. -- nm - Tim Jul 2, 17:42 3
  - And the President and Senate are also blocking their stupid shit too. So there is that -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 17:43 1
    - i don't think you understand how "equivalency" works -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 17:47
  - So they can point and say that he's a do nothing president. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:43
- But the major reason that last number is so low is because a certain segment of Congress doesn't want to pass any law that Obama likes. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:41 13
  - I still stand by my IM. Doesn't matter the reason if some good comes out of it. - Bacon Jul 2, 17:43 12
    - They are just as guilty about the earmarks as anyone else. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:46 11
      - You seem to think I am defending Republicans. I am not. I am merely pointing out that the gridlock cuts both ways. -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 17:48 10
        
        You certainly seem to be. -- nm - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:52 9
        
        In all of these discussions you always think that to be the case. From your political standpoint a Moderate would seem to be far Right Wing. -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 17:53 8
        
        And what do you think my political standpoint is? - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:55 7
        
        I don't think you really know sometimes. -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 17:56 6
        
        And that doesn't answer my question directly. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 18:02 2
        
        I guess I don't care enough to figure it out -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 18:03 1
        
        Yes, I am aware of that. So why bring it up? -- nm - the liioulu with Jul 2, 18:04
        
        I think you're doing exactly what you accuse me of. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:59 2
        
        Think what you want. -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 18:02 1
        
        I always do. -- nm - the liioulu with Jul 2, 18:02

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